Re: [PHP-DEV] [Request for Comment] Loading dynamic libraries with cross dependencies.

2017-03-06 Thread Sara Golemon
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:50 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > FWIW, I wouldn't mind improvements in this area (apcu and the apc bc layer > suffer from this). > apcu_bc is exactly what precipitated this discussion for me. :) > Anything from a better error message, all the way to removing the necessary > lo

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Request for Comment] Loading dynamic libraries with cross dependencies.

2017-03-06 Thread Joe Watkins
Morning all, FWIW, I wouldn't mind improvements in this area (apcu and the apc bc layer suffer from this). Anything from a better error message, all the way to removing the necessary load order limitation would be nice. Cheers Joe On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Fr

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Request for Comment] Loading dynamic libraries with cross dependencies.

2017-03-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:47 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > >> The average PHP extension is dependent only on the PHP runtime it was > >> built for and probably one or more 3rd party libraries. However, a > >> special class of extensions (such as PDO drivers

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Request for Comment] Loading dynamic libraries with cross dependencies.

2017-03-03 Thread Sara Golemon
>> Would I be correct in assuming there's a desire to resolve this issue? >> Or are we considering "know your dependencies and configure for them" >> to be enough? >> > > Configuration should be dead simple, having this load order requirements > is not dead simple. It is actually very complicated b

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Request for Comment] Loading dynamic libraries with cross dependencies.

2017-03-03 Thread Fleshgrinder
On 3/3/2017 8:14 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:47 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: >> See also: >> https://derickrethans.nl/undefined-symbol.html >> > Exactly! The same underlying issue at work. > > Would I be correct in assuming there's a desire to resolve this issue? > Or are we

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Request for Comment] Loading dynamic libraries with cross dependencies.

2017-03-03 Thread Sara Golemon
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:47 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: >> The average PHP extension is dependent only on the PHP runtime it was >> built for and probably one or more 3rd party libraries. However, a >> special class of extensions (such as PDO drivers and much of the XML >> family) have dependencies

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Request for Comment] Loading dynamic libraries with cross dependencies.

2017-03-03 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017, Sara Golemon wrote: > The average PHP extension is dependent only on the PHP runtime it was > built for and probably one or more 3rd party libraries. However, a > special class of extensions (such as PDO drivers and much of the XML > family) have dependencies on other PHP ext

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Request for Comment] Loading dynamic libraries with cross dependencies.

2017-03-03 Thread Michael Wallner
On 28/02/17 20:13, Sara Golemon wrote: > The average PHP extension is dependent only on the PHP runtime it was > built for and probably one or more 3rd party libraries. However, a > special class of extensions (such as PDO drivers and much of the XML > family) have dependencies on other PHP extens

[PHP-DEV] [Request for Comment] Loading dynamic libraries with cross dependencies.

2017-02-28 Thread Sara Golemon
The average PHP extension is dependent only on the PHP runtime it was built for and probably one or more 3rd party libraries. However, a special class of extensions (such as PDO drivers and much of the XML family) have dependencies on other PHP extensions which may (or may not) be preset at the ti