Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-10-01 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
Hi, Ferenc nailed why this RFC could be considered invalid. Maintenance burden and separate releases would be bad if tied to php-src. I'll update its status to declined. Joe, as I said in the RFC, Mutex could only be supported through pthreads PECL. So your answer was still not 100% accurate from

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-10-01 Thread Julien Pauli
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 14:26 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> . >> personally I think that a pecl extension needs to have stronger arguments >> to be bundled with php-src than the fact that it would probably create a >> bit more exposure for

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-10-01 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 14:26 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > . > personally I think that a pecl extension needs to have stronger arguments > to be bundled with php-src than the fact that it would probably create a > bit more exposure for the ext. > Fully agree and mind this: For an average user it

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-10-01 Thread Joe Watkins
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 14:26 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:18 PM, guilhermebla...@gmail.com < > guilhermebla...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > What does that even mean? > > > > It means that any new functionality that gets into core could be considered > > "young". Like when P

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-10-01 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:18 PM, guilhermebla...@gmail.com < guilhermebla...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What does that even mean? > > It means that any new functionality that gets into core could be considered > "young". Like when PHAR got introduced, it was a "young" extension. Same > for PDO, same f

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
> What does that even mean? It means that any new functionality that gets into core could be considered "young". Like when PHAR got introduced, it was a "young" extension. Same for PDO, same for FileInfo... What I'm trying to highlight is that being a recently coded extension or not, it's not a go

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 30 Sep 2014, at 20:56, guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: >> Isn't this extension a bit "young" to join php core ? > > I agree. However, there's no equivalent existing support in PHP atm. That, in itself, is not necessarily a justification. Unless an awful lot of PHP users need this, it shoul

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
> Fix the title? :) Is it for sync or pecl_http? Someone already fixed that. > Isn't this extension a bit "young" to join php core ? I agree. However, there's no equivalent existing support in PHP atm. Also, any new functionality introduced to PHP would always be new, young and caring maturity.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Sara Golemon
This needs a "Why" section. Why is this good for PHP? Why will a significant percentage of users be interested in this? Why is it necessary? This feel pretty niche to me. -Sara > On Sep 30, 2014, at 4:06, "guilhermebla...@gmail.com" > wrote: > > Hi, > > Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.n

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 30/09/2014 05:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com a écrit : > > > > Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync > > Isn't this extension a bit "young" to join php core ? I'd say both that, and that the RFC is *very* minimal. THere is no rationale why

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Julien Pauli
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Leigh wrote: > On 30 September 2014 04:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync >> >> Thoughts appreciated. >> > > What are the actual benefits of this being included in core? The RFC > doesn't really lis

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-29 Thread Leigh
On 30 September 2014 04:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync > > Thoughts appreciated. > What are the actual benefits of this being included in core? The RFC doesn't really list any. Also, there was a discussion in June (started by Julie

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-29 Thread Thomas Hruska
On 9/29/2014 8:06 PM, guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync Thoughts appreciated. Cheers, As the original author of this extension, I only have a few caveats to point out: 1) It has a dependency on POSIX semaphores on non-Windows platforms.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-29 Thread Remi Collet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 30/09/2014 05:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com a écrit : > Hi, > > Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync Isn't this extension a bit "young" to join php core ? Remi. > > Thoughts appreciated. > > Cheers, > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-29 Thread Gasol Wu
The title is wrong. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:06 AM, guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync > > Thoughts appreciated. > > Cheers, > > -- > Guilherme Blanco > MSN: guilhermebla...@hotmail.com > GTalk: guilhermeblanco > Toronto - ON/Canada --

[PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-29 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
Hi, Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync Thoughts appreciated. Cheers, -- Guilherme Blanco MSN: guilhermebla...@hotmail.com GTalk: guilhermeblanco Toronto - ON/Canada