On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 9:46 PM Levi Morrison wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 6:29 AM David Gebler wrote:
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> > On Tue, 20 Jun 2023, 04:10 Levi Morrison, wrote:
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> > > > I like the idea of this RFC - in fact it's one which has been near top
> > > > of
> > > > my wishlist for PHP languag
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 6:29 AM David Gebler wrote:
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> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023, 04:10 Levi Morrison, wrote:
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> > > I like the idea of this RFC - in fact it's one which has been near top of
> > > my wishlist for PHP language features for a long time - but I think this
> > is
> > > an issue with the
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 12:10 AM Levi Morrison wrote:
> > I like the idea of this RFC - in fact it's one which has been near top of
> > my wishlist for PHP language features for a long time - but I think this
> is
> > an issue with the proposed implementation which at the very least
> warrants
>
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 13:29, David Gebler wrote:
> Yeah I suppose I'm just saying "Interface default methods" can be
> interpreted a few different ways and there's key differences between
> Java-style, versus syntax sugar for mixing an interface and a trait in to
> one unit, versus a user can ef
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023, 04:10 Levi Morrison, wrote:
> > I like the idea of this RFC - in fact it's one which has been near top of
> > my wishlist for PHP language features for a long time - but I think this
> is
> > an issue with the proposed implementation which at the very least
> warrants
> > hig
On 19/06/2023 22:12, David Gebler wrote:
Sure, but in this example were B::bar() to be a private method,
you would get a scope violation error. You would not if you were to
use a trait, since any methods implemented in the trait would be
executed in the same scope as the class using the trait
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 7:30 AM Levi Morrison wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 6:05 AM Alexandru Pătrănescu
> wrote:
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> > 1. Do we want to allow also private methods in the interface so that it
> > allows code reuse or better code organization in smaller methods?
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> Sorry for the delay in re
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 6:05 AM Alexandru Pătrănescu wrote:
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> Thank you for this!
> I like the proposal and I think it fits well.
> I'm used to it from Java and I don't know any reason for it to be
> considered a bad practice since it was introduce, about 9-10 years ago.
>
> 1. Do we want to all
> I like the idea of this RFC - in fact it's one which has been near top of
> my wishlist for PHP language features for a long time - but I think this is
> an issue with the proposed implementation which at the very least warrants
> highlighting and discussion.
I understand your concern but person
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 9:53 PM Rowan Tommins
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> On 19/06/2023 20:20, David Gebler wrote:
> > Okay, thanks. That's really quite significant, since it changes the
> feature
> > to one which could allow changes made to interfaces to adversely impact
> > existing clients of an interface withou
On 19/06/2023 20:20, David Gebler wrote:
Okay, thanks. That's really quite significant, since it changes the feature
to one which could allow changes made to interfaces to adversely impact
existing clients of an interface without those clients changing a thing.
As the RFC says, it introduces a
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 3:53 AM Levi Morrison
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> No, there's no attempt to ensure the method body adheres to calling
> the public interface. Due to PHP's possible dynamic behaviors, I don't
> think it's reasonable to attempt to enforce it at compile-time. I'm
> not sure it's worth the eff
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 4:10 PM David Gebler wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 4:48 AM Levi Morrison via internals
> wrote:
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>>
>> I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
>>
>
> Can I ask, the RFC doesn't say - doe
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 4:48 AM Levi Morrison via internals <
internals@lists.php.net> wrote:
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> I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
>
>
Can I ask, the RFC doesn't say - does your implementation ensure default
imple
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 06:48 Levi Morrison via internals <
internals@lists.php.net> wrote:
> Hello, PHP Internals,
>
> I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
>
> Thank you for your time. I look forward to productive feed
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 5:41 PM Levi Morrison via internals
wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 3:37 PM Ilija Tovilo wrote:
> > > I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
> > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
> >
> > The RFC doesn't mention default implem
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:51 AM Deleu wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 12:48 AM Levi Morrison via internals
> wrote:
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>> Hello, PHP Internals,
>>
>> I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
>>
>> This can be a u
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 12:48 AM Levi Morrison via internals <
internals@lists.php.net> wrote:
> Hello, PHP Internals,
>
> I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
>
> This can be a useful tool for a few reasons:
> 1. It
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, at 3:47 AM, Levi Morrison via internals wrote:
> Hello, PHP Internals,
>
> I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
>
> This can be a useful tool for a few reasons:
> 1. It can make implementing an i
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 3:37 PM Ilija Tovilo wrote:
> > I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
>
> The RFC doesn't mention default implementations for static methods.
> I'm not sure there's a use case but it might mak
Hi Levi
> I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
This or a similar concept makes sense to me. The proposal seems
similar to Swift protocol extensions, or Rust traits, with the
exception that function default implementa
> On Thursday, Jun 15, 2023 at 12:01 PM, Deleu (mailto:deleu...@gmail.com)> wrote:
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> One can argue that this change might make it so that users start
> considering adding methods with default implementation as
> not-so-much-a-bc-break and do so without bumping a major version, in which
> case t
>
> I still believe this information should be added to the RFC as the risk
> of adding new methods to an interface which collide with existing
> methods in implementations of that interface is very real, though I
> agree with Deleu that this BC impact is not so much of the RFC, but of
> what can h
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 9:16 AM Tim Düsterhus wrote:
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> Hi
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> On 6/15/23 17:08, Deleu wrote:
> > The feature may introduce a new way for *Users of PHP* to break BC with
> > *Other Users of PHP*. The language change itself has no impact on PHP code
> > written prior to the feature. The additional
> I still believe this information should be added to the RFC as the risk
> of adding new methods to an interface which collide with existing
> methods in implementations of that interface is very real, though I
> agree with Deleu that this BC impact is not so much of the RFC, but of
> what can hap
Hi
On 6/15/23 17:08, Deleu wrote:
The feature may introduce a new way for *Users of PHP* to break BC with
*Other Users of PHP*. The language change itself has no impact on PHP code
written prior to the feature. The additional note about how users may break
BC by using the feature would be a desc
I loved the proposal and I think this has the potential to be a huge
developer experience improvement, perhaps at least as great as property
constructor promotion and match().
Just a side note though, in the Backward Compatibility section, I would
think that only "None" should be declared. From th
On 15-6-2023 5:47, Levi Morrison via internals wrote:
Hello, PHP Internals,
I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
This can be a useful tool for a few reasons:
1. It can make implementing an interface easier when cer
Hello, PHP Internals,
I am moving my RFC for interface default methods to discussion:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods.
This can be a useful tool for a few reasons:
1. It can make implementing an interface easier when certain methods
can be implemented by other methods in the i
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