On 02.10.2024 at 12:55, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> On Wednesday, 2 October 2024 at 00:32, Larry Garfield
> wrote:
>
>> I have no strong opinions on this RFC as I've not paid close attention to
>> it, but "we can't introduce an unnamespaced class, that's a BC break" is
>> simply not true, and not
On Wednesday, 2 October 2024 at 00:32, Larry Garfield
wrote:
>
> I have no strong opinions on this RFC as I've not paid close attention to it,
> but "we can't introduce an unnamespaced class, that's a BC break" is simply
> not true, and not consistent with how Internals and the stdlib are and
On Tue, Oct 1, 2024, at 23:02, Nick Lockheart wrote:
> >
> > Hey Nick,
> >
> > Is this actually an issue though? \Directory would be a weird thing
> > to autoload. Most people tend to autoload specific namespaces. I
> > think it would be weird to autoload into the global namespace.
> >
> > Maybe
On Tue, 2024-10-01 at 18:32 -0500, Larry Garfield wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024, at 4:02 PM, Nick Lockheart wrote:
> > >
>
> Which is why anyone creating a global namespace class, especially
> with a generic name like that, in 2024 is Doing PHP Wrong(tm).
OK. I'm going to go back to writing fast,
On Tue, Oct 1, 2024, at 4:02 PM, Nick Lockheart wrote:
>>
>> Hey Nick,
>>
>> Is this actually an issue though? \Directory would be a weird thing
>> to autoload. Most people tend to autoload specific namespaces. I
>> think it would be weird to autoload into the global namespace.
>>
>> Maybe I am
>
> Hey Nick,
>
> Is this actually an issue though? \Directory would be a weird thing
> to autoload. Most people tend to autoload specific namespaces. I
> think it would be weird to autoload into the global namespace.
>
> Maybe I am wrong, and that is why I ask.
>
> — Rob
In a situation where
On Tue, Oct 1, 2024, at 22:21, Nick Lockheart wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-10-01 at 16:36 +, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 25 September 2024 at 10:12, Nick Lockheart
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 2024-09-14 at 15:33 +, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> > > I don't suppose we could call the Dire
On Tue, 2024-10-01 at 16:36 +, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 September 2024 at 10:12, Nick Lockheart
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2024-09-14 at 15:33 +, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> > I don't suppose we could call the Directory class something else,
> > like
> > "SPLDirectory"?
> >
> >
On Tuesday, 24 September 2024 at 13:25, Gina P. Banyard
wrote:
> On Saturday, 14 September 2024 at 16:33, Gina P. Banyard intern...@gpb.moe
> wrote:
>
> > Hello internals,
> >
> > I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
> > ext/standard.
> > This class is effec
On Wednesday, 25 September 2024 at 10:12, Nick Lockheart
wrote:
> On Sat, 2024-09-14 at 15:33 +, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> I don't suppose we could call the Directory class something else, like
> "SPLDirectory"?
>
> You can't make a Directory with `new` (or at least you aren't supposed
> to
On Sat, 2024-09-14 at 15:33 +, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> Hello internals,
>
> I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration
> of ext/standard.
> This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory resources,
> however it doesn't behave like one, as it has existed sinc
On Tuesday, 24 September 2024 at 14:34, Christian Schneider
wrote:
> Am 14.09.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Gina P. Banyard intern...@gpb.moe:
>
> > I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
> > ext/standard.
> > This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory res
Am 14.09.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Gina P. Banyard :
> I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
> ext/standard.
> This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory resources, however
> it doesn't behave like one, as it has existed since PHP 4.
>
> As such, I am p
On Saturday, 14 September 2024 at 16:33, Gina P. Banyard
wrote:
> Hello internals,
>
> I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
> ext/standard.
> This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory resources, however
> it doesn't behave like one, as it has e
On 17.09.2024 at 18:03, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> On Saturday, 14 September 2024 at 18:48, Christoph M. Becker
> wrote:
>
>> On 14.09.2024 at 17:33, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
>>
>>> RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/directory-opaque-object
>>
>> As I see it, an opaque object is an object which doesn't h
On Saturday, 14 September 2024 at 18:48, Christoph M. Becker
wrote:
> On 14.09.2024 at 17:33, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
>
> > I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
> > ext/standard.
> > This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory resources, however
>
On Monday, 16 September 2024 at 18:31, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
>
> > I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
> > ext/standard. This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory
> > resources, however it doesn't beh
On 16.09.2024 at 18:31, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
>
>> I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
>> ext/standard. This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory
>> resources, however it doesn't behave like one, as it
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
> ext/standard. This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory
> resources, however it doesn't behave like one, as it has existed since
> PHP 4.
>
> As such, I am prop
Seems right thing to do.
I saw some usage like
final class Dir extends Directory
{
}
also did not see much in *new* codes Directory being extended so 8.5 sure.
Cheers.
On Sat, 14 Sept 2024 at 16:36, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> Hello internals,
>
> I came across the Directory class while doing s
On 14.09.2024 at 17:33, Gina P. Banyard wrote:
> I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
> ext/standard.
> This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory resources, however
> it doesn't behave like one, as it has existed since PHP 4.
>
> As such, I am pro
Hello internals,
I came across the Directory class while doing some code exploration of
ext/standard.
This class is effectively an opaque object for Directory resources, however it
doesn't behave like one, as it has existed since PHP 4.
As such, I am proposing an RFC to turn this class into an
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