Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-13 Thread Juliette Reinders Folmer
On 10-11-2023 17:51, Jakub Zelenka wrote: Hello, I would like to propose a new process RFC for updates to PHP release cycle: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update This has been discussed between release managers to make sure that all are happy as some of the points impact release manag

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-13 Thread Derick Rethans
On 10 November 2023 23:27:35 GMT, Rowan Tommins wrote: >On 10 November 2023 16:51:57 GMT, Jakub Zelenka wrote: >>Hello, >> >>I would like to propose a new process RFC for updates to PHP release cycle: >> >>https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update > >Hi, > >I started writing a suggestion that

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-13 Thread Derick Rethans
On 10 November 2023 20:22:27 GMT, Jakub Zelenka wrote: >Hi, > >On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 5:56 PM Ilija Tovilo wrote: > >I think there should be a clear cut when the RFC can be implemented and >there should be probably still time to apply ABI breaking changes after >that time. So we could potentiall

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-13 Thread Remi Collet
Le 10/11/2023 à 17:51, Jakub Zelenka a écrit : Hello, I would like to propose a new process RFC for updates to PHP release cycle: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update > Extending security support by one year +1 > Allowing recent regression fixes during security support As regress

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-13 Thread youkidearitai
2023年11月11日(土) 8:27 Rowan Tommins : > > On 10 November 2023 16:51:57 GMT, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I would like to propose a new process RFC for updates to PHP release cycle: > > > >https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update > > Hi, > > I started writing a suggestion that you add

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-10 Thread Rowan Tommins
On 10 November 2023 16:51:57 GMT, Jakub Zelenka wrote: >Hello, > >I would like to propose a new process RFC for updates to PHP release cycle: > >https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update Hi, I started writing a suggestion that you add details to your RFC of what text we would remove or chan

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-10 Thread Larry Garfield
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 5:20 PM Larry Garfield > wrote: > >> >> * "Allow feature that do not require RFC in beta" - The description >> doesn't quite sound like it's talking about "features." It's talking about >> refactoring, bug f

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-10 Thread Tim Düsterhus
Hi On 11/10/23 21:22, Jakub Zelenka wrote: - 2 alphas - think 2 are enough as each RM can try one release. - 4 betas and require that all RFC has to be merged before beta3 is released. It means we would have 2 extra betas to iron out all RFC issues and still be able to introduce ABI breaks Sho

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-10 Thread Jakub Zelenka
Hi, On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 5:56 PM Ilija Tovilo wrote: > Hi Jakub > > Thank you for the proposal. > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 5:52 PM Jakub Zelenka wrote: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update > > > Currently beta is called a feature freeze but effectively it isn't. The > main issu

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-10 Thread Jakub Zelenka
Hi, On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 5:20 PM Larry Garfield wrote: > > * "Allow feature that do not require RFC in beta" - The description > doesn't quite sound like it's talking about "features." It's talking about > refactoring, bug fixes, edge case handling, etc. Those are certainly > beta-friendly

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-10 Thread Ilija Tovilo
Hi Jakub Thank you for the proposal. On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 5:52 PM Jakub Zelenka wrote: > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update > Currently beta is called a feature freeze but effectively it isn't. The main > issue with that is that the end of alpha just means that all RFC's targetin

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-10 Thread Larry Garfield
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, at 10:51 AM, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to propose a new process RFC for updates to PHP release cycle: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update > > This has been discussed between release managers to make sure that all are > happy as some of the po

[PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Release cycle update

2023-11-10 Thread Jakub Zelenka
Hello, I would like to propose a new process RFC for updates to PHP release cycle: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update This has been discussed between release managers to make sure that all are happy as some of the points impact release managers (e.g. longer security support). I also