Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > One thing is to change from "single vote" to "approval voting" (one can > "aaprove" any of those, sum up, done, one of the best voting systems for > "winner takes it all" things > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_voting) Multiple ch

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 14:25 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: > > Whereas 50%-1 vote for "Two years, one normal fixes and one security > > fixes only" and "With the PHP 5.5 final release" > > > > Then the winner will be "One year with security fixes only" and "With > > the PHP 5.5 final release" which prob

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > Separating the two questions is "strange" and can lead to unintended > results. They should be combined into one. Example assumption: 50%+1 > vote for "One year with security fixes only" but are split between "With > the next PHP 5.3 rele

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 12:39 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Clint Priest wrote: > > > Would this 1 or 2 year period begin from release date of 5.3 or as of > > around now/vote? > > See "When should start the EOL period and when should it be announced?" I don't unde

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Kris Craig
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > > > Would a voting option to tie it to the release of a future PHP version, > > rather than a fixed time interval, be appropriate? > > > Like in end it when 5.x is released? Actually, I wa

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Clint Priest wrote: > Would this 1 or 2 year period begin from release date of 5.3 or as of around > now/vote? See "When should start the EOL period and when should it be announced?" -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- P

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Clint Priest
Would this 1 or 2 year period begin from release date of 5.3 or as of around now/vote? -Clint On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > >> Would a voting option to tie it to the release of a future PHP version, >> rather than a fixe

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > Would a voting option to tie it to the release of a future PHP version, > rather than a fixed time interval, be appropriate? Like in end it when 5.x is released? Not sure it helps in anyway, but that's possible already if we choose to begin t

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Kris Craig
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > hi, > > While the 5.3 RM already unilaterally published some announce about > 5.3 status with the last release, we still have to clearly and openly > decide what is the best road to take. > > Here is the last version of the rfc: > > https://wik

[PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, While the 5.3 RM already unilaterally published some announce about 5.3 status with the last release, we still have to clearly and openly decide what is the best road to take. Here is the last version of the rfc: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php53eol If anyone has any other additional options t