Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-23 Thread G. P. B.
Hello everyone, We've updated the RFC [1] by rewriting it in part and trying to add more details /context and trying to address some other concerns which came up. Hoping for some more feedback before planning on moving this to a vote. Best regards George P. Banyard [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-21 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
Hi Benjamin, pon., 20 kwi 2020 o 14:06 Benjamin Eberlei napisał(a): > Hi Michał, George, > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:29 PM Michał Brzuchalski < > michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi internals, >> >> I hope you're doing well. >> >> I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-21 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
Hi Mike wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 07:29 Mike Schinkel napisał(a): > I have been wondering for a while why PHP does not officially recognize a > \PHP namespace. > > The inconsistency people have mentioned feels like a fair tradeoff for > allowing new core classes to be cleanly-named and easier to unders

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-20 Thread Mike Schinkel
I have been wondering for a while why PHP does not officially recognize a \PHP namespace. The inconsistency people have mentioned feels like a fair tradeoff for allowing new core classes to be cleanly-named and easier to understand. And a \PHP namespace would allow RFCs to never need worry abou

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-20 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
Hi Michał, George, On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:29 PM Michał Brzuchalski < michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi internals, > > I hope you're doing well. > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-16 Thread Rowan Tommins
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 20:54, G. P. B. wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 19:24, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > We already have PHP language features relying on classes in the root > > namespace (Closure, Throwable, ArrayAccess, etc) so the point Marcio > > makes about inconsistency is nonetheless valid

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 22:27, Derick Rethans wrote: > On 15 April 2020 20:36:25 BST, "G. P. B." > wrote: > >On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 15:51, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > >> > >> > Hi internals, > >> > > >> > I hope you're doing well. > >> > > >> >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Derick Rethans
On 15 April 2020 20:36:25 BST, "G. P. B." wrote: >On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 15:51, Derick Rethans wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: >> >> > Hi internals, >> > >> > I hope you're doing well. >> > >> > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. >> > The

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 19:24, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi, > > Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > Hi Marcio, > > > > śr., 15 kwi 2020 o 18:39 Marcio Almada > napisał(a): > > > >> Even though I'm fond to the idea of languages having the official > >> stdlib contained > >> into a single space, there seem

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 18:39, Marcio Almada wrote: > > > > Hi internals, > > > > I hope you're doing well. > > > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > > purpose > > is nothing more like to a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 15:51, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > > Hi internals, > > > > I hope you're doing well. > > > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard an

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: Hi Marcio, śr., 15 kwi 2020 o 18:39 Marcio Almada napisał(a): Even though I'm fond to the idea of languages having the official stdlib contained into a single space, there seems to be no practicality on a \PHP namespace usage at this point IMMO. We would be in

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
Hi Derick, śr., 15 kwi 2020 o 15:51 Derick Rethans napisał(a): > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > > Hi internals, > > > > I hope you're doing well. > > > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > > The RFC is authored by me together with George Pete

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
Hi Marcio, śr., 15 kwi 2020 o 18:39 Marcio Almada napisał(a): > > > > Hi internals, > > > > I hope you're doing well. > > > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > > purpose > > is nothing mo

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Marcio Almada
> > Hi internals, > > I hope you're doing well. > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > purpose > is nothing more like to allow the use of PHP Namespace in the core. > > The RFC is described at

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > Hi internals, > > I hope you're doing well. > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > purpose > is nothing more like to allow the use of PHP Nam

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 14:29, Michał Brzuchalski < michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi internals, > > I hope you're doing well. > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > purpose > is nothin

[PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
Hi internals, I hope you're doing well. I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's purpose is nothing more like to allow the use of PHP Namespace in the core. The RFC is described at https://wiki.php.ne