AW: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-03-02 Thread Robert Stoll
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: julienpa...@gmail.com [mailto:julienpa...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von > Julien Pauli > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 10:27 > An: Dmitry Stogov > Cc: Alexander Lisachenko; PHP internals list > Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discus

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-26 Thread Julien Pauli
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > Hi Alexander, > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Alexander Lisachenko < > lisachenko...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Morning! > > > > I want to ask this question one more time before PHP7 feature freeze: can > > we the engine case sensitive f

RE: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-25 Thread François Laupretre
Pierre, > De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] > > > I case we would designed a new language I would rise two hands. > > Changing, syntax in an existent widely used language is an additional pain > > for users. > > Technically it shouldn't be very difficult to remove support for > > case

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-25 Thread Pierre Joye
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > Hi Alexander, > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Alexander Lisachenko < > lisachenko...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Morning! >> >> I want to ask this question one more time before PHP7 feature freeze: can >> we the engine case sensitive from

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-25 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Hi Alexander, On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Alexander Lisachenko < lisachenko...@gmail.com> wrote: > Morning! > > I want to ask this question one more time before PHP7 feature freeze: can > we the engine case sensitive from PHP>=7.0? > > There is a draft for that: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/ca

RE: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-25 Thread François Laupretre
de Yasuo Ohgaki Envoyé : mercredi 25 février 2015 08:20 À : francois Cc : Alain Williams; internals@lists.php.net Objet : Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine Hi Francois, On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:37 PM, François Laupretre wrote: > > I won’t have time to w

RE: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-25 Thread François Laupretre
people are shooting down every new INI setting, whatever the need. Regards François > -Message d'origine- > De : Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] > Envoyé : mercredi 25 février 2015 11:04 > À : internals@lists.php.net > Objet : Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion]

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-25 Thread Lester Caine
On 25/02/15 09:40, Derick Rethans wrote: > To be really honest, I don't think all of the pro's hold up. For a hash > check, there is no change really - the only change that is to remove the > zend_tolower. Previous discussions have IIRC shown that the performance > benefit is minimal. Compatibil

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-25 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Alexander Lisachenko < > lisachenko...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > There is a draft for that: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/case-sensitivity > > (mostly empty), so I decided to ask this question in the internals > > mail list. >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-24 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Francois, On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:37 PM, François Laupretre wrote: > > I won’t have time to work on it during the next month (will be in Africa starting next Saturday). So feel free to take over the RFC and propose something for the future. It's off topic for this thread, but are you finish

RE: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-24 Thread François Laupretre
. Regards François De : yohg...@gmail.com [mailto:yohg...@gmail.com] De la part de Yasuo Ohgaki Envoyé : mercredi 25 février 2015 03:07 À : francois Cc : Alain Williams; internals@lists.php.net Objet : Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine Hi Francois, On Wed

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-24 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Francois, On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:45 AM, François Laupretre wrote: > > I stopped for several reasons : > > 1. The reactions were mostly negative, with a majority of 'breaks much, > brings nothing' opinions, > > 2. Crawling through the code, I discovered that code to handle case > insensitivi

RE: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-24 Thread François Laupretre
ssage d'origine- > De : Alain Williams [mailto:a...@phcomp.co.uk] > Envoyé : mardi 24 février 2015 10:32 > À : internals@lists.php.net > Objet : Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 06:23:04PM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-24 Thread Alain Williams
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 06:23:04PM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > INI switch is better. Compiler switch would not work well, since user cannot > check their code easily. > > PHP7 - introduce case sensitivity switch off by default > PHP8 - make case sensitivity switch on by default > PHP9 - remove c

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-24 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Alexander, On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Alexander Lisachenko < lisachenko...@gmail.com> wrote: > There is a draft for that: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/case-sensitivity > (mostly empty), so I decided to ask this question in the internals mail > list. > > Pros: more simple O(1) hash table chec

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-24 Thread Lester Caine
On 24/02/15 08:02, Pavel Kouřil wrote: >> I want to ask this question one more time before PHP7 feature freeze: can >> > we the engine case sensitive from PHP>=7.0? >> > >> > There is a draft for that: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/case-sensitivity >> > (mostly empty), so I decided to ask this question

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-24 Thread Pavel Kouřil
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Alexander Lisachenko wrote: > Morning! > > I want to ask this question one more time before PHP7 feature freeze: can > we the engine case sensitive from PHP>=7.0? > > There is a draft for that: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/case-sensitivity > (mostly empty), so I decid

[PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Last chance for case-sensitive engine

2015-02-23 Thread Alexander Lisachenko
Morning! I want to ask this question one more time before PHP7 feature freeze: can we the engine case sensitive from PHP>=7.0? There is a draft for that: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/case-sensitivity (mostly empty), so I decided to ask this question in the internals mail list. Pros: more simple O(1