[PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-02-06 Thread Marcio Almada
Hi, FYI, the RFC was simplified and updated with opinions gathered during discussion phase: RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/group_use_declarations Along with its pull request: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1005 I'll start the voting phase on *Wednesday (February 11, 2015)* if no new points t

Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-02-06 Thread Marcio Almada
> Please create a new thread to be sure everyone sees it. Oh, thanks for the warning. I also noticed that a good amount of people replied to me without without CC the mailing list. Hope this won't be an issue. Regards.

Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-02-06 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Marcio Almada wrote: > Hi, > > FYI, the RFC was simplified and updated with opinions gathered during > discussion phase: > > RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/group_use_declarations > Along with its pull request: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1005 > > I'll start

Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-02-06 Thread Marcio Almada
Hi, FYI, the RFC was simplified and updated with opinions gathered during discussion phase: RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/group_use_declarations Along with its pull request: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1005 I'll start the voting phase on *Wednesday (February 11, 2015)* if no new points t

Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-01-31 Thread Marcio Almada
Hi, Robert > I agree with Markus, the benefits for users which are using IDEs is marginal. But I suppose all other users could actually benefit from it. > Yet, with the drawback described by Markus - searching for use statements without a clever IDE will be more difficult. No syntax will be perfe

Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-01-31 Thread Marcio Almada
Hi, Markus > [...] with proper tooling I almost > can't remember when I wrote the statements by hand; they usually a) get > automatically managed b) thus alphabetically sorted and c) folded away > in general. You're basically stating we don't need to improve language syntax because your IDE alrea

Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-01-31 Thread Marcio Almada
Hi, Leigh > Feels a lot like Rust > > http://doc.rust-lang.org/reference.html#use-declarations Yes, indeed Rust language is cited on the references section. > I'm not opposed to the suggestion, we really should have a shorthand > for condensing use declarations That's good to know, During the r

AW: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-01-31 Thread Robert Stoll
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Markus Fischer [mailto:mar...@fischer.name] > Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Januar 2015 16:11 > An: internals@lists.php.net > Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations > > On 31.01.15 01:09, Marcio Almada wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-01-31 Thread Markus Fischer
On 31.01.15 01:09, Marcio Almada wrote: > After a period of research along with part of the PHP community I'd > like to present this RFC which aims to improve PHP namespaces. > > The RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/group_use_declarations > Along with its pull request: https://github.com/php/php-src/

Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-01-30 Thread Leigh
On 31 January 2015 at 00:09, Marcio Almada wrote: > Hi, > > After a period of research along with part of the PHP community I'd > like to present this RFC which aims to improve PHP namespaces. > > The RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/group_use_declarations > Along with its pull request: https://githu

[PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations

2015-01-30 Thread Marcio Almada
Hi, After a period of research along with part of the PHP community I'd like to present this RFC which aims to improve PHP namespaces. The RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/group_use_declarations Along with its pull request: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1005 Needless to say, I'm open to sugge