RE: [PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-I18N] adding GB18030 support for mbstring

2010-02-01 Thread Tex Texin
mbstring can call out to icu to do the work. -Original Message- From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 12:11 PM To: Tex Texin Cc: Moriyoshi Koizumi; KITAZAKI Shigeru; php-i...@lists.php.net; internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP

[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-I18N] adding GB18030 support for mbstring

2010-02-01 Thread Tex Texin
Since ICU supports many conversions, including gb18030, and is regularly updated and is already a part of php, it makes no sense to include individually written conversions. ICU also gets considerable testing and review. Conversions should all be driven through icu. -Original Message- Fro

RE: [PHP-DEV] intl naming

2008-04-04 Thread Tex Texin
-Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 4:37 AM To: Tex Texin Cc: Lester Caine; PHP internals Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] intl naming Tex, please please quote properly, it is really hard to follow the conversion down below here. http

RE: [PHP-DEV] intl naming

2008-04-04 Thread Tex Texin
Lester asks: THAT I agree with - BUT WHAT IS STOPPING PHP6 being the solution. I can't see any reason that time is being wasted on yet another PHP5.X when that same effort could be directed to getting at least a stable beta of PHP6 out the door? Tex replies: When we started this project nearly

[PHP-DEV] The weapons of mass destruction in the intl extension

2008-03-26 Thread Tex Texin
-Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:49 AM To: Tex Texin Cc: Marcus Boerger; Pierre Joye; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension On Sun

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension

2008-03-23 Thread Tex Texin
-Original Message- From: Hannes Magnusson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 1:31 PM To: Tex Texin Cc: Marcus Boerger; Pierre Joye; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension On Sun

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension

2008-03-23 Thread Tex Texin
AM To: Tex Texin Cc: Marcus Boerger; Pierre Joye; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension Hi Tex On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Tex Texin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pierre, Marcus, et al. > >

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension

2008-03-23 Thread Tex Texin
I should have said when we started we didn't know PHP internals. We certainly do now. My point was that the info discussed the list wouldn't have been of interest to most. -Original Message- From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:27

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension

2008-03-23 Thread Tex Texin
tex -Original Message- From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 2:09 PM To: Pierre Joye Cc: Derick Rethans; Stanislav Malyshev; sf.chen; Tex Texin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ed Batutis; Hong,Weilin; PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re:

[PHP-DEV] RE: [php-icu] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension

2008-03-21 Thread Tex Texin
gs as they are. tex -Original Message- From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 10:51 AM To: Derick Rethans Cc: Tex Texin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [php-icu] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension

2008-03-21 Thread Tex Texin
s agree on the name change today. tex -Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:35 AM To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: sf.chen; Tex Texin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ed Batutis'; 'Hong,Weilin'; PHP Developers Mailing List Su

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: tex

2007-08-24 Thread tex texin
developing unicode and internationalization extensions to php. Stas said I should join -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] spring cleaning

2005-09-15 Thread Tex Texin
> -Original Message- > From: Jani Taskinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Was: > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP6, Unicode for language functions, > classes,methods, vars names > > Touché. :) > > But I must insist. I want to upgrade at some point. > I might even have use for unic

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP6, Unicode for language functions, classes,methods, vars names

2005-09-14 Thread Tex Texin
> -Original Message- > From: Jani Taskinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Tex Texin wrote: > > > ok, so you shouldn't program in french. For others it is fine and > > works better than english. > > Show me one such perso

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP6, Unicode for language functions, classes,methods, vars names

2005-09-14 Thread Tex Texin
snipped... > > Check the history, every language developement tools which > tried to do it do not support it anymore. Why? For the exact > same reasons listed in this thread. I am not sure why you say this. Java and other languages support multilingual identifiers. The newest standards for pr

RE: [PHP-DEV] unserialize() & unicode issues

2005-09-14 Thread Tex Texin
s one format for all modes. Conversion between utf-8 and utf-16 is very fast and likely wont be noticed given the other tasks of I/O and packing or unpacking the remaining data. Also, utf-8 doesnÂ’t have any endian issues, as utf-16 does. hth Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo

RE: [PHP-DEV] ord() on binary strings

2005-09-14 Thread Tex Texin
do a conversion from the unicode string encoding to the runtime encoding? Wouldn't some conversion be implied for binary data then also? ugh. Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Dmitry Stogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP6, Unicode for language functions, classes,methods, vars names

2005-09-14 Thread Tex Texin
gone this route. If one day we want to call from PHP to a program that made use of such identifiers, it would be a shame to not be able to, only because of an unwarranted restriction on the design. Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. > -Original Message- &

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP6, Unicode for language functions, classes,methods, vars names

2005-09-14 Thread Tex Texin
name in the local language, and as a programmer, you have to come up with a meaningless (to you) string to represent it, and having to support that code... Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

[PHP-DEV] RE: str_pad clarification - Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Unicode strings impl proposal

2005-09-02 Thread Tex Texin
it (grapheme) or anything else. So, yes one code point. Padding left and right, should be the same as the current function. If it is symmetric, keep it symmetric. sorry to be terse. its difficult to write while on the road. (and apparently I have difficulties when not on the road... ;-) ) Tex

RE: [PHP-DEV] RE: str_pad clarification - Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Unicode strings impl proposal

2005-08-29 Thread Tex Texin
ction to do what they need. Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Andrei Zmievski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:16 PM > To: Tex Texin > Cc: 'Rolland Santimano'; 'internals&#x

[PHP-DEV] RE: str_pad clarification - Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Unicode strings impl proposal

2005-08-29 Thread Tex Texin
person that wants something more complex, can implement whatever he needs on his/her own easily. Knowing the pad string, his/her algorithm is likely to be more efficient than our general purpose one would have been. Sound ok? Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. >

RE: [PHP-DEV] character/byte semantics was Re: PHP Unicode support design document-keeping existing functionality

2005-08-26 Thread Tex Texin
*() character semantics. If a good number of users do that, then it isn't much consequence either way (ie it is no-win), and that puts us back to the original proposal. Is that right? Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Ma

[PHP-DEV] FORM accept-charset was: PHP Unicode support design document

2005-08-26 Thread Tex Texin
comments at the end of this mail tex > -Original Message- > From: Makoto Tozawa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:47 PM > To: Tex Texin > Cc: 'Andrei Zmievski'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'PHP > Developers Mailing List' &g

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Unicode support design document- encoding negotiation

2005-08-25 Thread Tex Texin
see the section on negotiation in this as well: http://www.xencraft.com/training/webstandards.html Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 200

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Unicode support design document-keeping existing functionality

2005-08-25 Thread Tex Texin
, so it will be available. Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Makoto Tozawa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:41 PM > To: Andrei Zmievski > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Developers Mailing List &g

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6.0 Wishlist

2005-08-25 Thread Tex Texin
if (2 < $x <= 4) {} Doesn't this collide with its current meaning: if ( (2 < $x) <= 4) {} i.e. parsing left to right, the true/false result of 2 < $x, is compared with <= 4. Changing the meaning could break some programs. Tex Texin Internationalization

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Unicode support design document

2005-08-25 Thread Tex Texin
it. But other browsers that are standards compliant (netscape was very strong in this area) will. I only tried POST. Somebody else might try it with GET. Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Andrei Zmievski [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: strrev() impl - Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src /ext/standard string.c

2005-08-22 Thread Tex Texin
chars to the end of the result string. Repeat until the beginning of the string. Tex Texin Internationalization Architect, Yahoo! Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Tex Texin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:14 PM > To: 'Andrei Zmievs

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: strrev() impl - Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src /ext/standard string.c

2005-08-22 Thread Tex Texin
Or use the breakiterator function. Also allows for locale differences and some special cases. http://icu.sourceforge.net/apiref/icu4c/classBreakIterator.html#_details Although we might prefer it to be locale independent. Separately, I was wondering if we should create a variation of the explode