On Fri, July 11, 2025 at 05:00 G. P. Banyard wrote:
>> On Monday, 30 June 2025 at 10:26, Nicolas Grekas wrote:
>> ...
>> The latter, cast-from-bool, I think they're all useful improvements. While
>> most likely harmless in all the specific
>> cases of the PR, doing e.g. an strpos() on false f
> Le 11 juil. 2025 à 11:38, Nick a écrit :
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>
> I am afraid here I do have a strong opinion. Please remember my very first
> mail before discussion [1].
> While for Larry the main reason for `readonly` hooks is lazy-initialisation,
> for me it is to write less code, to have less noisy class
Hi
On 7/7/25 13:50, Jiří Pudil wrote:
I'd like to start the discussion for an RFC proposing to extend the target of
the #[\Override] attribute to properties.
RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/override_properties
Implementation: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/19061
Thank you. As the author o
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025, at 13:40, Nick wrote:
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>> On 11. Jul 2025, at 01:43, Rob Landers wrote:
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>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025, at 17:34, Larry Garfield wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025, at 5:43 AM, Tim Düsterhus wrote:
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > Am 2025-07-08 17:32, schrieb Nicolas Grekas:
>>> >> I also
> On 11. Jul 2025, at 01:43, Rob Landers wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025, at 17:34, Larry Garfield wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025, at 5:43 AM, Tim Düsterhus wrote:
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > Am 2025-07-08 17:32, schrieb Nicolas Grekas:
>> >> I also read Tim's argument that new features could be stricter.
On Monday, 30 June 2025 at 10:26, Nicolas Grekas
wrote:
> Hi Gina
>
> Thanks for experimenting with this on
> https://github.com/symfony/symfony/pull/60890/files
>
> It's good to see that fitting this RFC requires a relatively small number of
> lines to change even on a codebase like Symfony.
> On 11. Jul 2025, at 13:02, Rob Landers wrote:
>>
>> Please remember that the RFC will allow `readonly` on backed properties
>> only, not on virtual hooked properties.
>> Nothing from your example would work, and it would result in:
>> Fatal error: Hooked virtual properties cannot be declared
> On 11. Jul 2025, at 14:25, Claude Pache wrote:
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>> Le 11 juil. 2025 à 06:30, Nick a écrit :
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>> To not get this buried in individual answers to others:
>>
>> I came up with two alternative implementations which cache the computed
>> `get` hook value.
>> One leverages separate cache prop
> Le 11 juil. 2025 à 06:30, Nick a écrit :
>
> Hey all,
>
>> On 8. Jun 2025, at 11:16, Larry Garfield wrote:
>>
>> As Nick has graciously provided an implementation, we would like to open
>> discussion on this very small RFC to allow `readonly` on backed properties
>> even if they have a h
