[PHP-DEV] Ship PHP builds for Windows on arm64?

2024-08-28 Thread Christoph M. Becker
Hi all, cross-posting for reach (guess that only few read internals-win). We had a feature request the other day to ship PHP builds for Windows on arm64[1]. It seems to me that Windows on arm64 has left its infancy, and we may not want to fall too far behind in supporting that platform. We alre

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Using and Mentioning Third-party Packages in PHP Documentation and Web Projects

2024-08-28 Thread Jim Winstead
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024, at 10:54 AM, Deleu wrote: > Hi Jim! > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 2:48 PM Jim Winstead wrote: >> __ >> Hi, >> >> Another RFC around process: >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/web-and-doc-use-not-endorsement >> >> Feedback would be appreciated. My intention is to start voting on S

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Using and Mentioning Third-party Packages in PHP Documentation and Web Projects

2024-08-28 Thread Bilge
On 28/08/2024 09:00, Rob Landers wrote: If anyone can add something to the list, then it eventually will become as overwhelming as https://github.com/uhub/awesome-php FYI, that's not the Awesome PHP list, this is: https://github.com/ziadoz/awesome-php. That other one doesn't even look curated

[PHP-DEV] Persistent CurlShareHandle objects

2024-08-28 Thread Eric Norris
Hey all, I've got a pull request at https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/15603 that I wanted to bring to your attention. We're interested in being able to reuse curl share handles across requests in mod_php, since we'd expect a performance benefit from not having to redo DNS lookups (in the case of

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Using and Mentioning Third-party Packages in PHP Documentation and Web Projects

2024-08-28 Thread John Coggeshall
On Aug 28 2024, at 9:34 am, Larry Garfield wrote: > > I don't think I'd support a list of "popular" frameworks, but mentioning > Composer, Xdebug, and PHPUnit seems a requirement for a useful modern > tutorial. Can you explain your position more here, what exactly is your concern (if I captu

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Using and Mentioning Third-party Packages in PHP Documentation and Web Projects

2024-08-28 Thread John Coggeshall
> I agree with this to a point. What if I want my newish framework listed on > the page? What are the qualifications for being listed (or unlisted) there? > Can anyone add their own framework? Personally I say put the top 5 by Github stars on a page by themselves, and have a secondary page rank

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Using and Mentioning Third-party Packages in PHP Documentation and Web Projects

2024-08-28 Thread Nick Lockheart
> > What a couple of people have touched on is that that all we have > right now is a Reference, which is only one kind of documentation.  > The common zeitgeist these days says there's 4: https://diataxis.fr/ > > * Tutorials > * How-to guides > * Explanation > * Reference > > We have a referenc

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Using and Mentioning Third-party Packages in PHP Documentation and Web Projects

2024-08-28 Thread Larry Garfield
On Wed, Aug 28, 2024, at 2:51 AM, John Coggeshall wrote: >> And that is how you will find that the "new" languages will "win". If we >> don't promote how modern PHP Development works, then there will be more >> "PHP, a fractal of bad design" articles to come for decades. >> >> We *must* do better

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Static Constructor

2024-08-28 Thread Erick de Azevedo Lima
Hello, everyone. I'm sorry for not being active for a time on the internals, including about this RFC of mine. I just had a huge house-related problem and recently also health problems with my family. So, I'll have to stay away for some time. But I'll go ahead with the talks about this RFC as soon

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Using and Mentioning Third-party Packages in PHP Documentation and Web Projects

2024-08-28 Thread Rob Landers
On Wed, Aug 28, 2024, at 09:51, John Coggeshall wrote: > >> And that is how you will find that the "new" languages will "win". If we >> don't promote how modern PHP Development works, then there will be more >> "PHP, a fractal of bad design" articles to come for decades. >> >> We *must* do better

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Using and Mentioning Third-party Packages in PHP Documentation and Web Projects

2024-08-28 Thread John Coggeshall
> And that is how you will find that the "new" languages will "win". If we > don't promote how modern PHP Development works, then there will be more > "PHP, a fractal of bad design" articles to come for decades. > > We *must* do better than this. It probably doesn't all need to be in the > documen

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Using and Mentioning Third-partyPackages in PHP Documentation and Web Projects

2024-08-28 Thread Rob Landers
On Wed, Aug 28, 2024, at 03:46, Jim Winstead wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024, at 4:46 AM, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > > On 27.08.2024 at 07:03, Andreas Heigl wrote: > > > >> I see this a bid differently to be honest. While I understand that using > >> third party packages in our internal tools mig