On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 8:26 PM Christian Schneider
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> Am 20.08.2024 um 17:14 schrieb Levi Morrison :
> > Keep in mind that qualifying
> > every global function is annoying but probably can be somewhat
> > automated, and will bring better performance. So again, this improves
> > the existi
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 6:02 AM Arnaud Le Blanc wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:18 AM Bob Weinand wrote:
> > The fluid Arrays section says "A PoC has been implemented, but the
> performance impact is still uncertain". Where may I find that PoC for my
> curiosity? I'm imagining th
Am 20.08.2024 um 17:14 schrieb Levi Morrison :
> Keep in mind that qualifying
> every global function is annoying but probably can be somewhat
> automated, and will bring better performance. So again, this improves
> the existing code even without upgrading.
Just to be sure: Would code *not* using
Hey Arnauld,
On 20.8.2024 15:01:28, Arnaud Le Blanc wrote:
Hi Bob,
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:18 AM Bob Weinand wrote:
The fluid Arrays section says "A PoC has been implemented, but the performance
impact is still uncertain". Where may I find that PoC for my curiosity? I'm
imagining the impl
On Mon, Aug 19, 2024, at 20:28, Mel Dafert wrote:
> On August 15, 2024 5:22:51 PM GMT+02:00, Rob Landers
> wrote:
> >Hello internals,
> >
> >I've decided to attempt an RFC for function autoloading. After reading
> >hundreds of ancient (and recent) emails relating to the topic along with
> >seve
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, at 01:53, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, 4:56 PM Rob Landers wrote:
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>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 18:07, Rob Landers wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 08:50, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
On 20 August 2024 00:21:22
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, 4:56 PM Rob Landers wrote:
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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 18:07, Rob Landers wrote:
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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 08:50, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
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> On 20 August 2024 00:21:22 BST, Rob Landers wrote:
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> >I assume you are worried about something like this passing
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 23:56, Faizan Akram Dar wrote:
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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:34 PM Ilija Tovilo wrote:
>> Hi Levi
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>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 5:14 PM Levi Morrison
>> wrote:
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>> > I have long been in favor of a larger BC break with better language
>> > consistency. Class look
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:34 PM Ilija Tovilo
wrote:
> Hi Levi
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 5:14 PM Levi Morrison
> wrote:
> >
> > I have long been in favor of a larger BC break with better language
> > consistency. Class lookup and function lookup with respect to
> > namespaces should be treated
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 18:07, Rob Landers wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 08:50, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
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>> On 20 August 2024 00:21:22 BST, Rob Landers wrote:
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>> >I assume you are worried about something like this passing test?
>> >
>> >--TEST--
>> >show called only once
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Hi Levi
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 5:14 PM Levi Morrison
wrote:
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> I have long been in favor of a larger BC break with better language
> consistency. Class lookup and function lookup with respect to
> namespaces should be treated the same. The difficulty is getting a
> majority of people to vote ye
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 08:50, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
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> On 20 August 2024 00:21:22 BST, Rob Landers wrote:
> >
> >I assume you are worried about something like this passing test?
> >
> >--TEST--
> >show called only once
> >--FILE--
> > >
> >namespace test;
> >
> >spl_autoload_register
> To sum up, I think we need to remove the fallback behavior, so we can have
> better things in the future.
> Either keep only local with a bigger BC break but a better language
> consistency.
> Or keep only global with a smaller BC break.
I have long been in favor of a larger BC break with bett
Hi Larry,
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 3:32 AM Larry Garfield wrote:
> > In fact, generic traits (essentially statically replacing the generic
> > arguments at link-time) would be an useful feature which would remain
> > useful even if we had fully reified generics.
> > I recognize that some functiona
Hi Mike,
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 2:45 AM Mike Schinkel wrote:
> It seems Java-style Generics are viewed as the proper archetype for Generics
> in PHP? I would challenge the wisdom of taking that road considering how
> different the compilers and runtimes are between the Java and PHP. PHP
> s
Hi Bob,
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:18 AM Bob Weinand wrote:
> The fluid Arrays section says "A PoC has been implemented, but the
> performance impact is still uncertain". Where may I find that PoC for my
> curiosity? I'm imagining the implementation of the array types as a counted
> collection
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 14:08, Arnaud Le Blanc wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 7:51 PM Rob Landers wrote:
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> > > Invariance would make arrays very difficult to adopt, as a library can
> > > not start type hinting generic arrays without breaking user code, and
> > > users can n
Hi Rob,
On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 7:51 PM Rob Landers wrote:
> > Invariance would make arrays very difficult to adopt, as a library can not
> > start type hinting generic arrays without breaking user code, and users can
> > not pass generic arrays to libraries until they start using generic arra
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 10:41, Nick Lockheart wrote:
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> > We would upgrade that to a warning in PHP 9.2, and it would end up
> > being an error on PHP 10 and have a BC break.
> >
> > I don't think adding a \ to each function call is ugly, that's what
> > we have for classes, and it works fine
> We would upgrade that to a warning in PHP 9.2, and it would end up
> being an error on PHP 10 and have a BC break.
>
> I don't think adding a \ to each function call is ugly, that's what
> we have for classes, and it works fine; or an use statement.
>
> So, why do we think that after people g
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:43 PM Ilija Tovilo wrote:
> Hi Rob
>
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 7:10 PM Rob Landers wrote:
> >
> > So, what you’re saying is that symfony and laravel can get a performance
> increase by simply adding a \ in the right places? Why don’t they do that
> instead of changing the
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024, at 03:53, Bob Weinand wrote:
> On 20.8.2024 03:31:05, Larry Garfield wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024, at 5:16 PM, Bob Weinand wrote:
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>>> Regarding the Collections PR, I personally really don't like it:
>>>
>>> • It implements something which would be trivial if we h
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