Re: [PHP-DEV] Bumping minimum PostgreSQL version to 10.0

2024-06-17 Thread Morgan
On 2024-06-18 05:25, Matteo Beccati wrote: Hi, Sure, you need to have the same version of libpq that PHP was built with. But nothing prevents your script using pdo_pgsql or ext/pgsql to connect to another version of postgres running either on the same machine or a different one. Right; t

[PHP-DEV] Wiki registration and request RFC karma

2024-06-17 Thread Erick de Azevedo Lima
Hi all! I've been reading the internals mailing list for some time and giving my 2 cents here and there. Now I have created a new wiki account (erickcomp) and I'd like to request RFC karma for a new RFC I worked on during my recent studies of the php-src. Thank you, Erick Lima

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bumping minimum PostgreSQL version to 10.0

2024-06-17 Thread David CARLIER
Hi, I m all for the changes this update should not preclude any 10.0 client to connect to a 9.x server. cheers.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bumping minimum PostgreSQL version to 10.0

2024-06-17 Thread Matteo Beccati
Hi, Il 17/06/2024 19:21, Peter Kokot ha scritto: When building for a certain PostgreSQL version, the pq library gets linked to the extension and then this PostgreSQL version needs to be used, yes. If you build for 10.0, then you need to use that exact version. Linux packages have this resolved b

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bumping minimum PostgreSQL version to 10.0

2024-06-17 Thread Peter Kokot
On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 19:16, Matteo Beccati wrote: > > Hi, > > Il 17/06/2024 19:03, Peter Kokot ha scritto: > > On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 18:58, Pierre wrote: > >> > >> Would id affect the possibility to use an old PostgreSQL (eg. 9.6) via > >> PHP (PDO or ext-pgsql) ? > >> > >> If so, it might be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bumping minimum PostgreSQL version to 10.0

2024-06-17 Thread Matteo Beccati
Hi, Il 17/06/2024 19:03, Peter Kokot ha scritto: On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 18:58, Pierre wrote: Would id affect the possibility to use an old PostgreSQL (eg. 9.6) via PHP (PDO or ext-pgsql) ? If so, it might be a dangerous move for oldest projects, you sometime can upgrade PHP and your software

Re: [PHP-DEV] Revisiting case-sensitivity in PHP

2024-06-17 Thread Tim Düsterhus
Hi On 6/13/24 21:48, Timo Tijhof wrote: I ask because MediaWiki's main "text" database table is an immutable/append-only store where we store the text of each page revision since ~2004. It is stored as serialised blobs of a value class. There have been a number of different implementations over

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bumping minimum PostgreSQL version to 10.0

2024-06-17 Thread Peter Kokot
On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 18:58, Pierre wrote: > > Would id affect the possibility to use an old PostgreSQL (eg. 9.6) via > PHP (PDO or ext-pgsql) ? > > If so, it might be a dangerous move for oldest projects, you sometime > can upgrade PHP and your software easily, but can't upgrade the database > s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bumping minimum PostgreSQL version to 10.0

2024-06-17 Thread Pierre
Le 14/06/2024 à 22:54, Peter Kokot a écrit : Hello, we're thinking of bumping the minimum PostgreSQL version supported by PHP from current version 9.1 to version 10.0: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/14540 A list of PostgreSQL versions and their EOL dates can be seen at https://en.wikipedia

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bumping minimum PostgreSQL version to 10.0

2024-06-17 Thread Larry Garfield
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 8:54 PM, Peter Kokot wrote: > Hello, > > we're thinking of bumping the minimum PostgreSQL version supported by PHP from > current version 9.1 to version 10.0: > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/14540 > > A list of PostgreSQL versions and their EOL dates can be seen at >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] PDO driver specific parsers

2024-06-17 Thread Matteo Beccati
Hi, Il 03/06/2024 09:27, Matteo Beccati ha scritto: Hi internals, I've just opened the vote for the "PDO driver specific parsers" RFC. The RFC contains a single vote which requires a 2/3 majority to pass. Voting runs 2 weeks until 2024-06-17 15:00 UTC. Please find the following resources fo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bumping minimum PostgreSQL version to 10.0

2024-06-17 Thread Matteo Beccati
Hi, Il 14/06/2024 22:54, Peter Kokot ha scritto: Hello, we're thinking of bumping the minimum PostgreSQL version supported by PHP from current version 9.1 to version 10.0: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/14540 Anyone have any concerns or thoughts about this? I'm very happy with it. Che

Re: [PHP-DEV] Static class

2024-06-17 Thread Mike Schinkel
> On Jun 17, 2024, at 8:54 AM, Bilge wrote: > Furthermore, for absolute clarity and the avoidance of doubt, I believe this > guiding principle can be enshrined on the following single sentence: > > "We cannot remove features from a static class that would otherwise be > present in a standar

Re: [PHP-DEV] Static class

2024-06-17 Thread Bilge
On 17/06/2024 13:49, Bilge wrote: On 16/06/2024 14:32, Mike Schinkel wrote: Not supporting all features used in the wild would result in developers not being able to use static classes for new and/or refactored code if they believe they need those excluded features. This would s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Static class

2024-06-17 Thread Bilge
On 16/06/2024 14:32, Mike Schinkel wrote: Not supporting all features used in the wild would result in developers not being able to use static classes for new and/or refactored code if they believe they need those excluded features. This would stop developers from signaling their

Re: [PHP-DEV] Revisiting case-sensitivity in PHP

2024-06-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 14 Jun 2024, Lanre wrote: > Coming from the property hooks/ asymmetric visibility dude, that's pretty > rich. Please, ad-hominem (and other) attacks are not welcome on this list. Please familiarise yourself with the mailinglist rules (https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/docs/mai