On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 01:39, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Rowan Tommins
> wrote:
> >
> > An idea I had earlier which might solve some of them is if what was
> returned was not a normal Closure instance, but a new class like
> FunctionReference. It could then "remember"
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Rowan Tommins wrote:
>
> An idea I had earlier which might solve some of them is if what was returned
> was not a normal Closure instance, but a new class like FunctionReference. It
> could then "remember" the name of the function wrapped, and implement
> __toStr
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Dik Takken wrote:
>
> On 13-02-2020 19:19, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>> function foo{}
>>
>> foo::function — Returns name of function
>> foo::fn — Returns closure for function
>>
>> Since using `fn` creates anonymous function closures it kinda makes sense
>> that `
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:48 AM Nikita Popov wrote:
>
> Hi internals,
>
> This has been discussed a while ago already, now as a proper proposal:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/token_as_object
>
> tl;dr is that it allows you to get token_get_all() output as an array of
> PhpToken objects. This reduces
On 13 February 2020 18:19:08 GMT+00:00, Mike Schinkel
wrote:
>Eloquently maybe, but of limited vision.
I think that's a rather negative way of putting it; there was a request for use
cases, and you have supplied some, so thank you. :)
An idea I had earlier which might solve some of them is if
On 13-02-2020 17:55, Larry Garfield wrote:
> I walked right into that one, didn't I...
You did. :)
> Well, Dik asked me to post a "fabulous functional programming example". I
> dont' have one, so I'll go with one from the book I'm working on instead. :-)
Thanks, much appreciated.
> $() or var
On 13-02-2020 19:19, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> But since I seem to be in the minority of caring about the name, let me
> propose the following which was influenced by Larry Garfield's most recent
> post. Since it seems that people want the convenience of a short notation to
> get a closure, how ab
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
> >> But since I seem to be in the minority of caring about the name, let me
> >> propose the following which was influenced by Larry Garfield's most
> >> recent post. Since it seems th
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Paul M. Jones wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Thanks for your continued evaluation of the RFC.
>
>> Take a look at WordPress. It does a lot of "fixup" to $_SERVER` variables —
>> to deal with badly implemented web servers — to ensure all known variables
>> have a value
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:
>> But since I seem to be in the minority of caring about the name, let me
>> propose the following which was influenced by Larry Garfield's most
>> recent post. Since it seems that people want the convenience of a
>> short notation to get a
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Rowan Tommins wrote:
> > Right, I'm with you now. However, I think the answer people are suggesting
> > to "how do we get the name string?" is "why do we need to?"
>
> 1. Say I want to provide users with the
Hi Mike,
Thanks for your continued evaluation of the RFC.
> Take a look at WordPress. It does a lot of "fixup" to $_SERVER` variables —
> to deal with badly implemented web servers — to ensure all known variables
> have a value and that the format of the value is consistent.
>
> ...
>
> An
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Rowan Tommins wrote:
> Right, I'm with you now. However, I think the answer people are suggesting
> to "how do we get the name string?" is "why do we need to?"
1. Say I want to provide users with the ability to build queries and use
functions where I want to provi
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 17:06, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> 1. IF foo::function returns a name string THEN using
> Closure::fromCallable( foo::function ) can provide a closure.
>
> 2. IF foo::function returns a closure THEN how to we get the name string?
>
Right, I'm with you now. However, I think the
Hi Patrick,
thanks for taking the time to explain your vote.
A virtual "stringable" type (that would be similar to "iterable)" would,
> IMHO, be of a bigger benefit if it is to denote the fact that "a variable
> can be transformed to a string".
> By design, when a variable is declared as "iterab
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 2:33 AM, Rowan Tommins wrote:
>
> On 13 February 2020 03:33:32 GMT+00:00, Mike Schinkel
> wrote:
>>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Rowan Tommins
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/02/2020 03:58, Mike Schinkel wrote:
Returning a_closure_ instead of a string would be providing a
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, at 3:47 AM, Nikita Popov wrote:
> Hi internals,
>
> This has been discussed a while ago already, now as a proper proposal:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/token_as_object
>
> tl;dr is that it allows you to get token_get_all() output as an array of
> PhpToken objects. This reduces
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Dik Takken wrote:
> On 11-02-2020 19:46, Larry Garfield wrote:
> >
> > I would love a nicer way to reference function names; it's really ugly
> to do functional code in PHP otherwise, or even just dynamic function
> logic within a namespace. If I never have to wr
Hi Ruud,
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 00:45, Ruud Boon wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I really like this RFC.
Glad to hear it!
> In the the RFC I see that $content will return php://input using
> file_get_contents on the fly. Can we add the possibility to get a reference
> to the stream as well?
By "get
Hi Niklas,
> On Feb 12, 2020, at 12:20, Niklas Keller wrote:
>
> I think the request / response API is entirely fine being solved in
> userland instead of in php-src. However, since you already made such a
> proposal, I want to give some feedback:
Re: userland, I gave a counterargument in my re
Hi,
> allow using string|Stringable to express string|object-with-__toString()
That goal is expressed in a technical way, rather than a functional one. I
have the feeling that addressing the goal: "Can I represent/cast variable
$str as a string" would address a broader, yet much more useful, scop
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 12:04, Manuel Canga wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 08:58, Rowan Tommins
> wrote:
>
>> On 12 February 2020 23:12:34 GMT+00:00, Manuel Canga <
>> manuelca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >El mié., 12 feb. 2020 23:01, Rowan Tommins
>> >escribió:
>> >In your example, you has the
Hi,
While there was a brief discussion about an *is_literal*() method in
August, I'm wondering where I can go next?
Just as a reminder, the main objection seemed to be that Taint checking is
the current solution. For example, those created by Laruence[1],
MediaWiki[2], and Matthew[3]. But this ca
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 08:58, Rowan Tommins wrote:
> On 12 February 2020 23:12:34 GMT+00:00, Manuel Canga <
> manuelca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >El mié., 12 feb. 2020 23:01, Rowan Tommins
> >escribió:
> >In your example, you has the same options:
> >
> >>
> >1. Change import
> >2. Add namespace:
>
Hi all,
> On February 13, 2020 1:52 PM Côme Chilliet
> wrote:
>
>
> Le mercredi 12 février 2020, 19:20:56 CET Niklas Keller a écrit :
> > Naming
> >
> > I think we shouldn't take over the naming of the super globals, e.g.
> > $_GET really contains the query parameters and has nothing to do w
Le mercredi 12 février 2020, 19:20:56 CET Niklas Keller a écrit :
> Naming
>
> I think we shouldn't take over the naming of the super globals, e.g.
> $_GET really contains the query parameters and has nothing to do with
> GET or POST, so $request->getQueryParameter(...) would be a better
> name.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM Nikita Popov wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:08 PM Andrea Faulds wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Nikita Popov wrote:
>> > Hi internals,
>> >
>> > Based on a suggestion by Nicolas Grekas,
>> > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5153 changes the generated name for
>> > anon
Hi internals,
This has been discussed a while ago already, now as a proper proposal:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/token_as_object
tl;dr is that it allows you to get token_get_all() output as an array of
PhpToken objects. This reduces memory usage, improves performance, makes
code more uniform and rea
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