Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:50 AM Nikita Popov wrote: > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 5:45 PM Mark Randall wrote: > > > Hi Internals, > > > > I put forward the following RFC "Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)" for > > discussion. > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-backtick-operator-v2 > > > > I be

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 9:20 PM Claude Pache wrote: > > > Le 7 oct. 2019 à 22:06, Olumide Samson a écrit : > > > > > > What's the goal of PHP? > > One important goal is (like many programming languages) to get work done. > > —Claude > I disagree, coz this seems to be a goal cooked up by you(even if

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)

> Le 7 oct. 2019 à 22:06, Olumide Samson a écrit : > > > What's the goal of PHP? One important goal is (like many programming languages) to get work done. —Claude -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 7:53 PM Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > That is the purpose of the eventual vote, is it not? To allow the > > community to make that determination. > > Not exactly - there should be a good reason before the RFC comes to a > vote. If you're not sure there's a VERY good r

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)

Hi! > That is the purpose of the eventual vote, is it not? To allow the > community to make that determination. Not exactly - there should be a good reason before the RFC comes to a vote. If you're not sure there's a VERY good reason, there shouldn't be the RFC about it at all, at least not in vo

RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)

> -Original Message- > From: Mark Randall [mailto:marand...@php.net] > > On 06/10/2019 14:18, Reinis Rozitis wrote: > > Since `` are used for literal strings (for poorly chosen reserved words as > > field, > table names (which happens from time to time)) in MySQL (multiline) queries I > d

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE] Object Initializer

Hi Marco, pon., 7 paź 2019 o 13:24 Marco Pivetta napisał(a): > Hey Michal, > > Overall, I like the idea of simplifying constructors. I downvoted the RFC > because: > > * I don't like/want co-existence of ctor and initializer > * `__set` interactions seem to also be a lot of non-trivial added >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE] Object Initializer

Hey Michal, Overall, I like the idea of simplifying constructors. I downvoted the RFC because: * I don't like/want co-existence of ctor and initializer * `__set` interactions seem to also be a lot of non-trivial added complexity. If this was a short-hand for a constructor replacement (exposed

[PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE] Object Initializer

Hi all, A follow-up note. There is no implementation of a patch yet. BR, Michał Brzuchalski pon., 7 paź 2019 o 13:00 Michał Brzuchalski napisał(a): > Hi all, > > the discussion period was long and discussion I think quite comprehensive. > > The RFC is at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/object-initial

[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Object Initializer

Hi all, the discussion period was long and discussion I think quite comprehensive. The RFC is at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/object-initializer and is up for voting now. The voting will take 2 weeks from 11:00 UTC 7th till 11:00 UTC 21st of October 2019. BR, Michał Brzuchalski

[PHP-DEV] Reverting "Link executable files using non PIC object files"

Hi, There were a number of build problems caused by my PR https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/4678 Today I got another report from Remi https://github.com/php/php-src/commit/f633c347574c0d814050b4bf2493e0cac6a5988c Although, the p

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Object Initializer

Hi all, the discussion period was long and discussion I think quite comprehensive. I'd like to open the RFC up for a voting today at 11:00 UTC. The voting will take from 11:00 UTC 7th till 11:00 UTC 21st of October 2019. BR, Michał Brzuchalski czw., 12 wrz 2019 o 16:00 Michał Brzuchalski napis

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)

On 07/10/2019 07:22, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: I personally thought we had thom - no removing things unless there's a very good reason to. Hi Stanislav, It has yet to be determined if there's a consensus on if the arguments given in favour of deprecation represent a good enough reason for th

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 5:45 PM Mark Randall wrote: > Hi Internals, > > I put forward the following RFC "Deprecate Backtick Operator (V2)" for > discussion. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-backtick-operator-v2 > > I believe it is at least worth a discussion as to the pros and cons of > depr

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Object Initializer

Hi Arvids, sorry for the late response, I've been busy recently. wt., 17 wrz 2019 o 13:08 Arvids Godjuks napisał(a): > > I've have been keeping up with the thread and at this point, I do somewhat > agree with people that maybe the RFC should go into V2 version development. > It really seems lik