Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2

2019-07-24 Thread Peter Cowburn
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 13:21, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:40 PM Peter Cowburn > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 22:03, Nikita Popov wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:10 PM Rowan Collins >>> wrote: >>> >>> > On 23 July 2019 18:54:48 BST, "G. P. B." >>> wrote

[PHP-DEV] Re: Generating arginfo from stub files

2019-07-24 Thread Christoph M. Becker
On 18.06.2019 at 17:10, Nikita Popov wrote: > Hi internals, > > In PHP 8 it will be possible to add reflectible argument and return type > information for internal functions (it was previously theoretically > possible as well, but forbidden by policy for php-src for multiple reasons, > which have

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2

2019-07-24 Thread Zeev Suraski
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:27 PM G. P. B. wrote: > Now if we can all agree that this can land without needing to go through > this > whole process I think everybody wins: we all don't need to spend time on > this, > it can be merged as it, the RMs could re-tag Beta 1 (which may will need to > happ

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Generating arginfo from stub files

2019-07-24 Thread Mark Randall
On 23/07/2019 16:05, Marco Pivetta wrote: Would it be too aggressive to have (in the php-src test suite, as a first step) something that ensures that a stub exists for each exposed userland symbol? That's an interesting point, at the risk of flogging a dead horse with my ignorance of internals

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2

2019-07-24 Thread Christoph M. Becker
On 24.07.2019 at 15:27, G. P. B. wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 05:51, wrote: > >> - [Short tags] You need to purposely turn it on in your own deployment - >> people and companies who use it use it exclusively for internal purposes. > > This is just plain wrong since PHP 5.4 as it is enabled by

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2

2019-07-24 Thread Chase Peeler
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:27 AM G. P. B. wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 22:22, Stanislav Malyshev > wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > Due to the controversy after the initial vote on the Deprecate PHP's > > Short > > > Open Tag RFC [1] here is a new RFC to deprecate them written with the > > help > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2

2019-07-24 Thread G. P. B.
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 22:22, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > Due to the controversy after the initial vote on the Deprecate PHP's > Short > > Open Tag RFC [1] here is a new RFC to deprecate them written with the > help > > of Nikita Popov . > > Could you please explain what has changed si

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2

2019-07-24 Thread Nikita Popov
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:40 PM Peter Cowburn wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 22:03, Nikita Popov wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:10 PM Rowan Collins >> wrote: >> >> > On 23 July 2019 18:54:48 BST, "G. P. B." >> wrote: >> > >The only point of contention of this RFC that I potentiall

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Deprecate PHP's short open tags V2

2019-07-24 Thread Peter Bowyer
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 21:56, Nikita Popov wrote: > I did not want to just merge the original (accepted!) implementation after > the controversial discussion it triggered, but after reading this, I > realize that I just wasted my time here. So much for being nice and giving > people a fair change