Hi,
Only adding Rob just in case :)
best,
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 5:54 AM Benjamin Eberlei wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> While looking for things to work on in php-src my friend Thomas pointed me
> to a peculiar special case in ext/dom that leads to massive inconsistency
> problems in the API.
>
> T
I agree this should be fixed. It's pretty hilarious how this exact
case (fiddling with the xmlns prefix) is the only comment for
DOMElement::setAttributeNS:
http://php.net/manual/en/domelement.setattributens.php (although
unnecessary, as you don't have to "add namespaces" to a document, that
automa
On Di, 2019-03-12 at 23:50 +0100, Peter Kokot wrote:
>
> > Which would be good - as all those things make writing portable
> > code
> > harder.
> >
> > $ echo '' | php
> >
> > Is a valid program, which will behave vastly different based on the
> > ini
> > setting.
>
> In reality if developer
On 12/03/2019 21:40, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
Isn't it just:
trait Locked {
public function __set($name, $value) {
throw new RuntimeException("Property $name not declared!");
}
public function __get($name) {
throw new RuntimeException("Property $name not declared!");
Hi everyone,
While looking for things to work on in php-src my friend Thomas pointed me
to a peculiar special case in ext/dom that leads to massive inconsistency
problems in the API.
There is an undocumented class DOMNameSpaceNode that gets returned from
DOMElement::getAttributeNode(NS) if you se
Hello,
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 17:57, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
>
> On Di, 2019-03-12 at 15:53 +, Rowan Collins wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 13:28, G. P. B.
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I was more going along the lines of removing short tags altogether
> > > with the
> > > ini setting as th
It was already addressed how using such trivial solution is insufficient,
please read whole thread
> On 12. Mar 2019, at 22:40, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>> While it can be useful, the ability to set an object property which is
>> not part of the class definition can also lead to sub
Hi!
> While it can be useful, the ability to set an object property which is
> not part of the class definition can also lead to subtle bugs. Banning
> this for all objects would be a significant and painful breaking change,
> so I propose instead the option to mark a particular class with a new
>
On Di, 2019-03-12 at 15:53 +, Rowan Collins wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 13:28, G. P. B.
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I was more going along the lines of removing short tags altogether
> > with the
> > ini setting as they are not available out of the box except if you
> > use a
> > special compile
Hi!
> I'm currently going through the PHP doc to remove mentions of PHP 4
> and stumbled upon the short_open_tag ini directive [1] which only affects
> the availability of ` From my understanding, the ` so maybe we should deprecate PHP's short tag altogether?
Why? What would it improve for people
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:12 AM Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
> Hi
>
> Den tir. 12. mar. 2019 kl. 15.49 skrev Chase Peeler >:
> > Everything looks weird and "non-phpish" when it's new. OO constructs
> weren't PHP-ish at first, because PHP didn't originally support OO. Imagine
> "foreach" didn't e
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 13:28, G. P. B. wrote:
> I was more going along the lines of removing short tags altogether with the
> ini setting as they are not available out of the box except if you use a
> special compile flag.
>
I don't really follow this reasoning: if we removed every feature whic
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 3:45 PM Larry Garfield wrote:
>
> Hello, peoples. I know it's been discussed once or twice before on the list,
> many years ago, but not recently. I therefore feel OK putting forth the
> following draft proposal for Comprehensions, aka "compact generators", in PHP:
>
>
Hi,
the real fun starts when people start to put list comprehension in a
list comprehension in a list comprehension. And the result is one-liners
that are pretty dense and write once never read.
The problem during software development are not the key strokes, it's
the time which later has to
Den 2019-03-11 kl. 13:16, skrev Nikita Popov:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:45 PM Larry Garfield
wrote:
Hello, peoples. I know it's been discussed once or twice before on the
list, many years ago, but not recently. I therefore feel OK putting forth
the following draft proposal for Comprehensio
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 4:45 PM Larry Garfield
wrote:
> Sara Golemon has written a preliminary patch that is partially complete
> (see the RFC link for details, it's impressively simple), but unfortunately
> doesn't have the bandwidth to complete it at this time. I am therefore
> looking for col
Hi
Den tir. 12. mar. 2019 kl. 15.49 skrev Chase Peeler :
> Everything looks weird and "non-phpish" when it's new. OO constructs weren't
> PHP-ish at first, because PHP didn't originally support OO. Imagine "foreach"
> didn't exist in PHP and we were still using while(list($key,$value) =
> each(
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:55 AM Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
> Hi
>
> Den søn. 10. mar. 2019 kl. 23.45 skrev Larry Garfield <
> la...@garfieldtech.com>:
> >
> > Hello, peoples. I know it's been discussed once or twice before on the
> list, many years ago, but not recently. I therefore feel OK pu
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 14:43, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 12.03.2019 at 14:27, G. P. B. wrote:
>
> > I was more going along the lines of removing short tags altogether with
> the
> > ini setting as they are not available out of the box except if you use a
> > special compile flag.
>
> To my k
On 12.03.2019 at 14:27, G. P. B. wrote:
> I was more going along the lines of removing short tags altogether with the
> ini setting as they are not available out of the box except if you use a
> special compile flag.
To my knowledge, short_open_tag=1 *always* enables short open tags,
regardless o
I was more going along the lines of removing short tags altogether with the
ini setting as they are not available out of the box except if you use a
special compile flag. However, I didn't know they were used with template
engines but wouldn't they just use `
On 11.03.2019 10:51, Nikita Popov wrote:
Both changes sound reasonable to me. Could you show some examples
where the
output is going to change due to the zend_ulong->zend_long switch?
Nikita
Sure!
For example
var_dump(decbin(9223372036854775807));
would currently show
string(64)
"1
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 12:15, Alexandru Pătrănescu wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I guess that `short_open_tag` ini settings can be deprecated/removed.
> But that would mean that short open tags will be always available, not that
> it will be removed.
>
> Regards,
> Alex
Oh, the main idea is to remove the in
Hi,
I guess that `short_open_tag` ini settings can be deprecated/removed.
But that would mean that short open tags will be always available, not that
it will be removed.
Regards,
Alex
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:39 PM Rowan Collins
wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 10:12, Peter Kokot wrote:
>
>
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 10:12, Peter Kokot wrote:
>
> PHP based template engines today most likely use only because of this topic today exactly. Possibility of being deprecated
> :) I think the short opening tags are good to go so things are more
> simple.
>
A quick search of the list archives
Hello,
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 10:51, Rowan Collins wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 20:06, G. P. B. wrote:
>
> > From my understanding, the ` > so maybe we should deprecate PHP's short tag altogether?
> >
>
>
> I think when that's been proposed in the past, people have said they like
> it for us
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 20:06, G. P. B. wrote:
> From my understanding, the ` so maybe we should deprecate PHP's short tag altogether?
>
I think when that's been proposed in the past, people have said they like
it for use in simple templates, often along with the "alternative control
structures"
Hi
Den søn. 10. mar. 2019 kl. 23.45 skrev Larry Garfield :
>
> Hello, peoples. I know it's been discussed once or twice before on the list,
> many years ago, but not recently. I therefore feel OK putting forth the
> following draft proposal for Comprehensions, aka "compact generators", in PHP:
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