Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi all, On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > Posting RFC draft before discussion > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/improve_predictable_prng_random > > This RFC includes results of recent PRNG related discussions. > I would like to keep it simple, but basic object feature will be >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Niklas, On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Niklas Keller wrote: > 2017-02-02 14:24 GMT+01:00 Christoph M. Becker : > >> On 02.02.2017 at 12:51, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >> >> > Although users must never do this, but there are codes that generate >> random >> > password/access key by mt_rand(). >> >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Tom, On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:53 AM, Tom Worster wrote: > > On 1 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > Posting RFC draft before discussion > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/improve_predictable_prng_random > > This RFC includes results of recent PRNG related discussions. > I would like to keep

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:24 PM, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > On 02.02.2017 at 12:51, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > > Although users must never do this, but there are codes that generate > random > > password/access key by mt_rand(). > > There is also code that stores clear text passwords. How would y

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate and Remove Bareword (Unquoted) Strings

2017-02-02 Thread Rowan Collins
> On 31.01.2017 at 23:49, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > There is another context where unquoted strings are used: > >$a = [ "foo" => "bar" ]; >echo "Let's go and have a drink in a $a[foo]!"; On 01/02/2017 23:12, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > This is explicitly mentioned in the RFC's "Unaffect

[PHP-DEV] BAD Benchmark Results for PHP Master 2017-02-01

2017-02-02 Thread lp_benchmark_robot
Results for project PHP master, build date 2017-02-01 20:29:06-08:00 commit: 3488cc9 previous commit:68801c9 revision date: 2017-02-02 01:36:29+01:00 environment:Haswell-EP cpu:Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2699 v3 @ 2.30GHz 2x18 cores, stepping 2, LLC 45 MB

Re: [PHP-DEV] Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Tom Worster
On 1 Feb 2017, at 22:47, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Posting RFC draft before discussion https://wiki.php.net/rfc/improve_predictable_prng_random This RFC includes results of recent PRNG related discussions. I would like to keep it simple, but basic object feature will be implemented. Methods could r

[PHP-DEV] PHP 7.1.2RC1 available for testing

2017-02-02 Thread Joe Watkins
Afternoon, PHP 7.1.2RC1 is available for testing, and can be downloaded from: http://downloads.php.net/~krakjoe/ The windows binaries are available at: http://windows.php.net/qa This is a bug fix release, details may be found in: https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/php-7.1.2RC1/NE

[PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.16RC1 is available for testing

2017-02-02 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi, PHP 7.0.16 RC1 was just released and can be downloaded from: https://downloads.php.net/~ab/ The Windows binaries are available at http://windows.php.net/qa/ This release contains a number of bugfixes. For the list of bugfixes that you can target in your testing, please refer to the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Niklas Keller
2017-02-02 14:24 GMT+01:00 Christoph M. Becker : > On 02.02.2017 at 12:51, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > > Although users must never do this, but there are codes that generate > random > > password/access key by mt_rand(). > > There is also code that stores clear text passwords. How would you > prevent

Re: [PHP-DEV] Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Tom Worster
On 2 Feb 2017, at 8:24, Christoph M. Becker wrote: On 02.02.2017 at 12:51, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Although users must never do this, but there are codes that generate random password/access key by mt_rand(). There is also code that stores clear text passwords. How would you prevent that? IMH

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Christoph M. Becker
On 02.02.2017 at 12:51, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Although users must never do this, but there are codes that generate random > password/access key by mt_rand(). There is also code that stores clear text passwords. How would you prevent that? IMHO, if users don't care to read the docs[1], it's thei

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Lauri, On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Lauri Kenttä wrote: > I think this RFC is badly prepared. You're overhauling the whole mt_rand > system in one go, but you're not doing it properly. There is no > justification for breaking compability, not in 7.x and not even in 8.0 in > my opinion. >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Lauri Kenttä
On 2017-02-02 05:47, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Posting RFC draft before discussion https://wiki.php.net/rfc/improve_predictable_prng_random This RFC includes results of recent PRNG related discussions. I would like to keep it simple, but basic object feature will be implemented. Methods could raise

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Improving mt_rand() seed

2017-02-02 Thread Niklas Keller
> > Posting RFC draft before discussion > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/improve_predictable_prng_random > > This RFC includes results of recent PRNG related discussions. > I would like to keep it simple, but basic object feature will be > implemented. > > Methods could raise exceptions for invalid ope