Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement fornon-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Andrea, On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Nikita Popov wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: >> >> I'm definitely in favor of requiring a 2/3 majority in all cases. An RFC >> that passes with 51:50 votes is clearly not an RFC that a consensus

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: fix leak in 5.6: ext/session/mod_files.c

2016-01-30 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi Anatol, On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Anatol Belski wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: yohg...@gmail.com [mailto:yohg...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Yasuo >> Ohgaki >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 4:13 AM >> To: Anatol Belski >> Cc: php-...@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP-CVS

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement fornon-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi Nikita, Nikita Popov wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: I'm definitely in favor of requiring a 2/3 majority in all cases. An RFC that passes with 51:50 votes is clearly not an RFC that a consensus exists on. On the contrary, it indicates a very controversial change

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Nikita Popov
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The vote on the OpenSSL AEAD RFC[1] has made me question our current RFC > process again. Under the Voting RFC[2], "Language changes" (in practice, > changes to syntax and semantics) require at least a 2/3 majority to pass >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement fornon-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Jakub Zelenka
Hi Andrea, On 30 Jan 2016 21:04, "Andrea Faulds" wrote: > > Hi Jakub, > > > Jakub Zelenka wrote: >> >> On 30 Jan 2016 17:35, "Andrea Faulds" wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The vote on the OpenSSL AEAD RFC[1] has made me question our current RFC >> >> process again. Under the Voting RFC[

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Jakub Zelenka
On 30 Jan 2016 19:37, "Joe Constant" wrote: > > >>P.S. Please don't top post... ;) > I'm not trying to thread hijack. Just trying to add to the discussion. The ops post was in regards to RFCs passing to easily. My contention with the low voter turnout is in line (or at least intended to be in line

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement fornon-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi Jakub, Jakub Zelenka wrote: On 30 Jan 2016 17:35, "Andrea Faulds" wrote: Hi everyone, The vote on the OpenSSL AEAD RFC[1] has made me question our current RFC process again. Under the Voting RFC[2], "Language changes" (in practice, changes to syntax and semantics) require at least a 2/3

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Joe Constant
>>P.S. Please don't top post... ;) I'm not trying to thread hijack. Just trying to add to the discussion. The ops post was in regards to RFCs passing to easily. My contention with the low voter turnout is in line (or at least intended to be in line) with that. >> It's often a specific feature f

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Jakub Zelenka
On 30 Jan 2016 18:07, "Joe Constant" wrote: > > As someone who has never participated with intervals before and only just recently subscribed to the list, I would like to see a minimum percentage of voting members participating in a vote for something to pass. In my interpretation of the current r

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Jakub Zelenka
On 30 Jan 2016 17:35, "Andrea Faulds" wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > The vote on the OpenSSL AEAD RFC[1] has made me question our current RFC process again. Under the Voting RFC[2], "Language changes" (in practice, changes to syntax and semantics) require at least a 2/3 majority to pass when they com

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Levi Morrison
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The vote on the OpenSSL AEAD RFC[1] has made me question our current RFC > process again. Under the Voting RFC[2], "Language changes" (in practice, > changes to syntax and semantics) require at least a 2/3 majority to pass >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Joe Constant
As someone who has never participated with intervals before and only just recently subscribed to the list, I would like to see a minimum percentage of voting members participating in a vote for something to pass. In my interpretation of the current rules, a measure could pass with only 3 votes

[PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"?

2016-01-30 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi everyone, The vote on the OpenSSL AEAD RFC[1] has made me question our current RFC process again. Under the Voting RFC[2], "Language changes" (in practice, changes to syntax and semantics) require at least a 2/3 majority to pass when they come to a vote, whereas changes that don't fall unde

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC Discussion] Precise Session Management

2016-01-30 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi all, On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > I would like to restart better session management for PHP 7.1. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/precise_session_management > > Although this RFC targets PHP 7.1, new session management > could be applied to older releases also if majority

[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: fix leak in 5.6: ext/session/mod_files.c

2016-01-30 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Yasuo, > -Original Message- > From: yohg...@gmail.com [mailto:yohg...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Yasuo > Ohgaki > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 4:13 AM > To: Anatol Belski > Cc: php-...@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: fix leak in 5.6: ext/session/mod_files.c > > On