Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Exceptions in the engine

Hi! >Message-ID: <54f07fc7.8050...@php.net> >Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:31:35 +0100 > > Guilherme volunteered to create a new RFC for the Throwable interface > immediately after this RFC is accepted. Sounds good to me :-) I would say create the RFC :) Nothing says we should immediately

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Exceptions in the engine

Am 23.02.2015 um 19:15 schrieb Nikita Popov: > Voting is open until 2015-03-08. Voting ends today and it looks like the RFC will be accepted. How should we proceed with regards to the comments I made in Message-ID: <54f07fc7.8050...@php.net> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:31:35 +0100 Guilher

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

Hi all, On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:41 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > I'd like to deprecate function: sizeof() [1][2], which is an alias of > > count(). some people > > expect it return the memory size of the variable. > > Why? So, some people are wrong, why we need to mess with the language to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

Hi Rowan, On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Rowan Collins wrote: > What? That's not the same thing at all. I'm pretty sure those functions > are deprecated *because* we have array callback forms, so you can use > call_user_func to call a method. > > PHP has a well-defined definition of "callable",

Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Rowan Collins wrote: > On 07/03/2015 01:30, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > >> Hi Rowan, >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Rowan Collins > > wrote: >> >> On 5 March 2015 22:05:05 GMT, Yasuo Ohgaki > > wro

Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names

Hi Gregory, On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Grégory Planchat wrote: > Le 07/03/2015 02:39, Yasuo Ohgaki a écrit : > >> We may provide new names and new parameter order in new namespace. >> The difference is "alias" or "namespace" basically. I don't object to use >> namespace for it at all. In fa

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

On 7 March 2015 22:47:48 GMT, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >Hi Rowan, > >On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Rowan Collins >wrote: > >> On 06/03/2015 23:03, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >> >>> We have a lot of array_u*() functions such as >>> >>> http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-uintersect-uassoc.php >>> array

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

Hi Rowan, On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Rowan Collins wrote: > On 06/03/2015 23:03, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > >> We have a lot of array_u*() functions such as >> >> http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-uintersect-uassoc.php >> array array_uintersect_uassoc ( array $array1 , array $array2 [, arr

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

Hi all, On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 06/03/15 23:18, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > Hi Lester, > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > > > >> On 05/03/15 09:40, Rowan Collins wrote: > > > > Good point! > > I'll update documents so that main

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Exceptions in the engine

Le 23/02/2015 19:15, Nikita Popov a écrit : Voting on the engine exceptions RFC, which proposes to convert existing fatal and recoverable fatal errors into exceptions, has opened: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/engine_exceptions_for_php7#vote Hi, After discussing the main proposition of this R

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

Hi! > I'd like to deprecate function: sizeof() [1][2], which is an alias of > count(). some people > expect it return the memory size of the variable. Why? So, some people are wrong, why we need to mess with the language to accommodate them? I don't think it is a good idea. -- Stas Malyshev sma

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

On 7 March 2015 at 20:42, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > Hi > > Well we could make count()/sizeof() work for strings, so that if: > C:\> php -r "echo sizeof('abc');" > 3 > > although it would not really accomplish much imo., I think it is more > of what background you come from that makes the most

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

Hi 2015-03-07 18:35 GMT+01:00 Sebastian B.-Hagensen : > Hi, > I don't think the alias make sense and is really misleading and I've > seen sizeof("abc"); often enough (Don't get me wrong that's equally > bad with count, but sizeof encourages that usage, imo). > Having two functions that do exactly

Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names

On 07/03/2015 01:30, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Hi Rowan, On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Rowan Collins > wrote: On 5 March 2015 22:05:05 GMT, Yasuo Ohgaki mailto:yohg...@ohgaki.net>> wrote: >Hi Rowan, > >On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:41 AM, Rowan Collins

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

On 06/03/2015 23:03, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: We have a lot of array_u*() functions such as http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-uintersect-uassoc.php array array_uintersect_uassoc ( array $array1 , array $array2 [, array $... ], callable $value_compare_func , callable $key_compare_func ) this can

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

On 07/03/15 17:35, Sebastian B.-Hagensen wrote: > On the other side: Removal of sizeof is doable with a patch release > for almost all projects and shouldn't really require more than 5 to 10 > minutes (+ time to review the diff) for most projects. If taken in conjunction with tidying up the IEEE C

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

Hi, 2015-03-07 17:41 GMT+01:00 Kalle Sommer Nielsen : > I'm a big -1 on this, while I know it returns the memory size in a C > perspective, I think it makes perfect sense to remain an alias, it > would break lots of applications for a very tiny to nothing gain. I don't think the alias make sense

Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names

Le 07/03/2015 02:39, Yasuo Ohgaki a écrit : We may provide new names and new parameter order in new namespace. The difference is "alias" or "namespace" basically. I don't object to use namespace for it at all. In fact, I would love to have it even if there is issue like writing extremely difficul

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

Hi 2015-03-07 16:51 GMT+01:00 reeze : > Hi internals, > > I'd like to deprecate function: sizeof() [1][2], which is an alias of > count(). some people > expect it return the memory size of the variable. > > The doc page's[1] user contributed notes indicate that too. > > What do you think? 'm a bi

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes

Hi, 2015-03-07 8:28 GMT-03:00 Robert Stoll : > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Patrick Schaaf [mailto:p...@bof.de] > > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. März 2015 08:22 > > An: Philip Sturgeon > > Cc: internals; Robert Stoll > > Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes > > > > Am 06.03.2

[PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()

Hi internals, I'd like to deprecate function: sizeof() [1][2], which is an alias of count(). some people expect it return the memory size of the variable. The doc page's[1] user contributed notes indicate that too. What do you think? [1] http://php.net/sizeof [2] https://github.com/php/php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Arrays being generated with length and no content on master

Great, that was quick. Tested the change with CakePHP tests and it passes now. Thank you. On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 3:50 AM, Xinchen Hui wrote: > Hey： > > > On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Juan Basso wrote: > > > > I was testing CakePHP framework with PHP 7 and some tests were failing. > > Digging in

[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Make empty() a Variadic

Hello PHP Internals! I'd like to put the variadic empty() RFC to vote. RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/variadic_empty Voting will finish in 14 days time on March 21st. Thanks, Tom -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit:

AW: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Patrick Schaaf [mailto:p...@bof.de] > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. März 2015 08:22 > An: Philip Sturgeon > Cc: internals; Robert Stoll > Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes > > Am 06.03.2015 20:14 schrieb "Philip Sturgeon" : > > > > Right, this here

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Anonymous Classes

2015-03-07 8:22 GMT+01:00 Patrick Schaaf : > Am 06.03.2015 20:14 schrieb "Philip Sturgeon" : > > > > Right, this here RFC has been drastically improved. > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/anonymous_classes > > > > Anyone got any doubts or troubles at this point? > > Can we / could we do "extends sel

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Consistent Function Names

On 06/03/15 23:18, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Hi Lester, > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > >> On 05/03/15 09:40, Rowan Collins wrote: > > Good point! > I'll update documents so that main function is prefered name/function > to be > used. >>> This would be f

Re: [PHP-DEV] Arrays being generated with length and no content on master

Hey： > On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Juan Basso wrote: > > I was testing CakePHP framework with PHP 7 and some tests were failing. > Digging into the issue I found that using compact in a certain way can > cause PHP to create an array with length but no content inside. > > I reported and added so