Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: fix CG(empty_string) init in ZTS: Zend/zend.c

2014-09-30 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Hi Anatol, I know, TSRM uses TLS APIs internally. In my opinion, the simplest (and probably efficient) way to get rid of TSRMLS_DC arguments and TSRMLS_FETCH calls, would be introducing a global thread specific variable. __thread void ***tsrm_ls; As I understood it won't work on Windows anyway,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Remove alternative PHP tags

2014-09-30 Thread Pascal MARTIN
On 24/09/2014 20:13, Nikita Popov wrote: The vote for removal of alternative PHP opening/closing tags in PHP 7 is now open: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/remove_alternative_php_tags#vote Hi! We've talked about this RFC with several other members of AFUP (French UG), and we pretty much all ag

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: fix CG(empty_string) init in ZTS: Zend/zend.c

2014-09-30 Thread Anatol Belski
Hi Dmtry, thanks for taking a look at this. On Wed, October 1, 2014 00:09, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > Hi, > > > I took a quick look over the patch. > I didn't get why it's named "native_tls" now, because it doesn't use > "__thread" variables anymore. I was wondering myself but now I see (intentionall

[PHP-DEV] Re: Remove generated lexers from git?

2014-09-30 Thread Nikita Popov
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: > Hi internals! > > Currently our git repo contains files like zend_language_scanner.c, > zend_ini_scanner.c, etc which are files generated by re2c. Historically > these files have been included because re2c was not readily available on > many

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Andrey Andreev
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Leigh wrote: > On 30 September 2014 23:05, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: >> >> And anyone with a wiki account can vote too, meaning everyone who >> wrote an RFC can in theory vote on anything, take for example fabpot, >> who does not have an VCS account but can vote

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Leigh
On 30 September 2014 23:05, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > > And anyone with a wiki account can vote too, meaning everyone who > wrote an RFC can in theory vote on anything, take for example fabpot, > who does not have an VCS account but can vote still because he have a > wiki account, which is out

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: fix CG(empty_string) init in ZTS: Zend/zend.c

2014-09-30 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Hi, I took a quick look over the patch. I didn't get why it's named "native_tls" now, because it doesn't use "__thread" variables anymore. Actually, now the patch get rid of additional TSRMLS_ arguments, but performs near the same thing as TSRMLS_FETCH() on each module global access. It leads to h

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
2014-09-30 21:59 GMT+02:00 Andrey Andreev : > Well, let's see ... what is the current status quo? > > Currently, all voters have VCS accounts, meaning that they already are > at least one of: > > a) C code contributors > b) documentation contributors > c) contributing to the php.net website or some

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Leigh
On 30 September 2014 20:31, Sharon Levy wrote: > > If more users were educated about PHP's internals, then there could be more > substantive discussions between Userland and core contributors, including > better ideas originating from Userland. More users might even consider > becoming core con

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
> What does that even mean? It means that any new functionality that gets into core could be considered "young". Like when PHAR got introduced, it was a "young" extension. Same for PDO, same for FileInfo... What I'm trying to highlight is that being a recently coded extension or not, it's not a go

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Kris Craig
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Andrey Andreev wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Sharon Levy > wrote: > > > > > > From: Andrey Andreev > > Sent: Sep 29, 2014 3:01 PM > > To: Sharon Levy > > Cc: Zeev Suraski , Derick Rethans , > Andrea > > Faulds , PHP internals > > Subject: Re: [PH

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Andrea Faulds
On 30 Sep 2014, at 20:56, guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: >> Isn't this extension a bit "young" to join php core ? > > I agree. However, there's no equivalent existing support in PHP atm. That, in itself, is not necessarily a justification. Unless an awful lot of PHP users need this, it shoul

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Andrey Andreev
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Sharon Levy wrote: > > > From: Andrey Andreev > Sent: Sep 29, 2014 3:01 PM > To: Sharon Levy > Cc: Zeev Suraski , Derick Rethans , Andrea > Faulds , PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on > RFCs? > > On Tue, Sep

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
> Fix the title? :) Is it for sync or pecl_http? Someone already fixed that. > Isn't this extension a bit "young" to join php core ? I agree. However, there's no equivalent existing support in PHP atm. Also, any new functionality introduced to PHP would always be new, young and caring maturity.

RE: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?

2014-09-30 Thread Sharon Levy
From: Andrey Andreev Sent: Sep 29, 2014 3:01 PM To: Sharon Levy Cc: Zeev Suraski , Derick Rethans , Andrea Faulds , PHP internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs? On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Sharon Levy wrote: > >> I think in all fairness,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Sara Golemon
This needs a "Why" section. Why is this good for PHP? Why will a significant percentage of users be interested in this? Why is it necessary? This feel pretty niche to me. -Sara > On Sep 30, 2014, at 4:06, "guilhermebla...@gmail.com" > wrote: > > Hi, > > Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.n

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: What happened to the 5.6.1 release?

2014-09-30 Thread Julien Pauli
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> I wonder if one could replace that release server with a simple vagrant >> setup or similar so the RM can actually create release archives on his >> own. > > I've always packaged 5.4 on my local machine, but it may have a downside >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 30/09/2014 05:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com a écrit : > > > > Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync > > Isn't this extension a bit "young" to join php core ? I'd say both that, and that the RFC is *very* minimal. THere is no rationale why

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Move pecl_sync to core

2014-09-30 Thread Julien Pauli
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Leigh wrote: > On 30 September 2014 04:06, guilhermebla...@gmail.com > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Here is a new RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/sync >> >> Thoughts appreciated. >> > > What are the actual benefits of this being included in core? The RFC > doesn't really lis