Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Sun, 2012-08-26 at 21:07 +0300, Yahav Gindi Bar wrote: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Will Fitch wrote: > > > Maybe the simplest solution is we have a minimum participation rate before > > voting can be closed? > > > Though it make sense - it's a problem, because it'll delay and reject som

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Pierre Joye
On Aug 26, 2012 7:42 PM, "Stas Malyshev" wrote: > > Hi! > > >foreach supports list syntax: 11 for yes, 4 for no. accepted. > >foreach supports list with silent token: 2 for yes, 10 for no. denied. > > And here's again the problem with this voting setup. With all these long > discussi

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Generators

2012-08-27 Thread Nikita Popov
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> I think the generators RFC has been discussed thoroughly enough by >> now, so I opened the vote: >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/generators#vote > > I think it's fine but I'd still like to put forward a proposal to > reconsider t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 27/08/12 15:49, Derick Rethans wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Andrew Faulds wrote: Hi derick, can't read the rules now, on mobile. If you're referring to top-posting/bottom-posting though, that's the fault of the Android Gingerbread email client, which sucks. So don't reply from a mobile. Besi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Andrew Faulds wrote: > Hi derick, can't read the rules now, on mobile. If you're referring to > top-posting/bottom-posting though, that's the fault of the Android > Gingerbread email client, which sucks. So don't reply from a mobile. Besides top-posting, all your emails als

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Laruence
Hi: sorry to replying top. this is really a minor features, so few people are interesting in this. thus fewer people will vote for it. if people interesting in the RFC, he will vote. so I think it's okey.. thanks On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >>f

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Andrew Faulds
Hi derick, can't read the rules now, on mobile. If you're referring to top-posting/bottom-posting though, that's the fault of the Android Gingerbread email client, which sucks. -- Sent from Samsung Mobile Andrew Faulds http://ajf.me/ Derick Rethans wrote: null

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Error handling brainstorming

2012-08-27 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > Basically Etienne mentioned that the original issue was a good example why > would we reconsider throwing exceptions from the core, which is currently > discouraged.[2] > Stan replied with the idea of turning the current error handling mechanism > in php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Stas Malyshev wrote: > > And this is how democracy works, Stas. If voters don't bother to > > turn up, too bad. > > Putting aside the fact that democracy has very little to do with what > we're trying to do here (we're not government, we're opensource > project), that's ho

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Andrew Faulds wrote: > They don't, you need voting karma too, having rfc karma isn't enough. > > And this is how democracy works, Stas. If voters don't bother to turn up, too > bad. Atleast if you post to this list, could you follow the guidelines? They are here: http://uk

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> And this is how democracy works, Stas. If voters don't bother to turn >> up, too bad. > > Putting aside the fact that democracy has very little to do with what > we're trying to do here (we're not government, we're opensource > proje

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Peter Cowburn wrote: > On 26 August 2012 18:48, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> >>> I got a PHP Wiki account but couldn't vote. Are you sure the Wiki >>> accounts got the permissions to vote? >> >> Hm... Not sure, maybe somebody has to enable it? > > There is a special gr

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Andrew Faulds
Hi. I haven't really tried much of C++ to be honest, but its sheer size and complexity means we should best avoid it, IMO. It can be confusing enough trying to understand some parts of the Zend engine without having to deal with operator overloading, templates and so-on. C is small enough that,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE]Call for voting: support use list in foreach

2012-08-27 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > That's where it gets ugly, in my experience; there are lots of > mediocre C++ developers (and legions of even expert > PHP/JavaScript/Python/Ruby/etc. devs) who couldn't so much as use a > pointer without around to > check their NULLs and do their deletes for them. As a person who used bot