Re: [PHP-DEV] [off] PHP: a fractal of bad design

2012-05-06 Thread Tjerk Anne Meesters
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Richard Lynch wrote: >> What exactly valid points? == is a converting operator, === is a >> strict >> operator. OK, in his favorite language it is not. Where exactly the >> valid point is? Author goes at great lengths to refuse to make even a >> slight mental effor

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Optional PHP tags by php.ini and CLI options (Ver. 1.4)

2012-05-06 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi, 2012/5/6 Richard Lynch : > On Wed, April 11, 2012 5:14 pm, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >> I think my RFC confused people on this list due to improper >> descriptions >> and too much information. Sorry for the confusion. I revised the RFC >> so >> that most important points can be understood at a glanc

Re: [PHP-DEV] Are feature request bugs ever looked at?

2012-05-06 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > However, is there a predictable process for picking some requests over others? Yes. Creating and RFC and discussing it on the list raises chance of resolution (one way or another) of the request. For smaller feature that does not warrant RFC, pull request on github and note on internals wou

Re: [PHP-DEV] Are feature request bugs ever looked at?

2012-05-06 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 05/06/2012 08:23 AM, Dmitri Dmitrison wrote: > That is actually a promising statistic. > > However, is there a predictable process for picking some requests over others? > If it's based on whether it resonated with the PHP dev who happened to > look at it, why even have a voting feature (and su

Re: [PHP-DEV] Are feature request bugs ever looked at?

2012-05-06 Thread Dmitri Dmitrison
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > > We don't have the resources to go through and thoroughly evaluate each > feature request. A couple of developers will read each one and if it > resonates with them personally they will do something about it. > Otherwise they leave it for a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Are feature request bugs ever looked at?

2012-05-06 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
Just a quick reply from my phone: anybody can register a wiki account and anybody can get rfc karma after sending a mail to the php-webmaster mailing list (this is a basic spam protection). about the rfc vs bug tracker: the wiki and the rfc process came later than the bugtracker. I would open a fea

Re: [PHP-DEV] Are feature request bugs ever looked at?

2012-05-06 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 05/06/2012 07:28 AM, Dmitri Dmitrison wrote: > So that just makes me wonder. > Is anyone even checking the bug system for requests anymore? > If the team feels strongly not to implement certain features, could you > just reply to those tickets and close them? > Would it be better to create RFCs

[PHP-DEV] Are feature request bugs ever looked at?

2012-05-06 Thread Dmitri Dmitrison
Hi all, First time poster here... Just hoping to get some information. It says on bugs.php.net that the best way to 'support' a request, is to vote on it. However, the most voted feature requests rarely get so much as a reply from a PHP developer, let alone an implementation. I'm not being critic

Re: [PHP-DEV] catching exception using a variable passed by reference

2012-05-06 Thread Devis Lucato
Hi Laruence, the solution you suggest would work though it makes it all a bit more verbose... I noticed also that the original variable is completely removed from the function scope, which is probably a bug. I'll raise a ticket, thank you ;-) Devis On 6 May 2012 05:04, Laruence wrote: > On S

Re: [PHP-DEV] catching exception using a variable passed by reference

2012-05-06 Thread Nikita Popov
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Laruence wrote: > Hi: >   after a deep look,  I think it's not a bug. > >   the exception in the catch block is only a local var of that block. Not sure this makes sense to me. PHP does not have block scopes; all variables in a function are in the same scope. For ex

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] running tests in parallel?

2012-05-06 Thread zoe slattery
Hi Thanks for the replies to this thread - I'll get on with it then :-) Zoe It's very important! Take a look at http://gcov.php.net A single build takes almost 2 days with most extensions enabled plus valgrind testing. So, yes, parallel testing would be highly appreciated (but do not forget