Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Release Process

2010-12-30 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! Just had such a problem myself a few weeks ago: a minor update (IIRC was from 5.3.2 to 5.3.3) broke virtually all of my web applications Out of curiosity - what exactly broke it? What change was it? I got the strange feeling that php-devs don't care very much of long term stability ;-p

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Release Process

2010-12-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* James Butler wrote: > Enterprise (who-ever that is :-) now uses PHP and as such will > want PHP to have some degree of uniformity with release cycles > and feature addition/removal so that they can easily factor it > in to their own deployment/upgrade plans etc. Having worked for several lar

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Release Process

2010-12-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > You can't expect the users to switch to the new major version as soon as it > comes out. They have to either migrate their codebase, and sadly they will > wait(at least me and my collegues/friends do this) one or two micro/build > version bump, usually the new major/major

Re: [PHP-DEV] Autoloader invariant

2010-12-30 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! When I am inside the body of an autoloader function, am I allowed to assume the invariant that the class passed to the autoloader function does not exist? Last time I checked, PHP was still single-threaded, Generally, yes, though nothing prevents somebody from calling the same function e

[PHP-DEV] Autoloader invariant

2010-12-30 Thread Edward Z. Yang
Hello all, long time no see. When I am inside the body of an autoloader function, am I allowed to assume the invariant that the class passed to the autoloader function does not exist? Last time I checked, PHP was still single-threaded, so this invariant being broken would be quite suprising to me