[PHP-DEV] Re: backslash, really ... ?

2010-04-29 Thread Greg Beaver
On 4/28/10 4:45 PM, Sylvain Rabot wrote: > Hi, > > The comment I'm about to make is behind the times, and, now, useless, I > know, but I can't hold me. > > You chose for the namespace feature, a great feature besides, the > backslash ?? really ?? Come on guys, among all the possibilities, you > h

Re: [PHP-DEV] trunk is alive and open

2010-04-29 Thread Adam Harvey
2010/4/30 Gwynne Raskind : > On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: As I've mentioned in the past I think we are better off with shorter release cycles and less features per cycle. Reduces risk and enables us to push out value faster. For example, we have made (and

RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Performance improvements

2010-04-29 Thread Andi Gutmans
Benjamin, Thanks for testing and sharing the data. These are great results and validate the progress made. Glad to see you're also seeing the improved memory usage which means that the runtime is not only faster but you can typically run more concurrent PHP instances. Andi > -Original Mes

Re: [PHP-DEV] IF clause with precondition

2010-04-29 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Sönke Brecht wrote: > Following code snippet did raise warnings concerning missing single array > values ($buffer[$SourceColumnNo] is NULL for some keys) > > if(!empty($SourceColumns[$SourceFileName]) && is_numeric($SourceColumnNo = array_search($ColumnName, $Sour

[PHP-DEV] IF clause with precondition

2010-04-29 Thread Sönke Brecht
Following code snippet did raise warnings concerning missing single array values ($buffer[$SourceColumnNo] is NULL for some keys) if(is_numeric($SourceColumnNo = array_search($ColumnName, $SourceColumns[$SourceFileName]))) { /* * The table column name was found in the current s

Re: [PHP-DEV] trunk is alive and open

2010-04-29 Thread Gwynne Raskind
On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: -Original Message- From: Johannes Schlüter [mailto:johan...@schlueters.de] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:40 AM To: Pierre Joye Cc: Gwynne Raskind; Ilia Alshanetsky; Kalle Sommer Nielsen; Lukas Kahwe Smith

Re: [PHP-DEV] IRC ?

2010-04-29 Thread Adam Harvey
On 29 April 2010 23:16, Ionut G. Stan wrote: > ##php on freenode: http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml > > The double pound (##) means that it's not official. It's probably worth noting that ##php is much more a help channel than a general discussion channel, although that's not to say that we d

Re: [PHP-DEV] IRC ?

2010-04-29 Thread Ionut G. Stan
On 4/29/10 5:47 PM, Frederic Hardy wrote: Hello ! I have already seen in some post that there are some discussion on IRC. Someone can say me the irc server and the channel ? Or there is no official IRC channel ? Best regards, Fred. ##php on freenode: http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml Th

Re: [PHP-DEV] IRC ?

2010-04-29 Thread Frederic Hardy
On 04/29/2010 17:04, Patrick ALLAERT wrote: #php.pecl on EFnet but nothing "official" AFAIK. Thanks, Patrick ;). -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] IRC ?

2010-04-29 Thread Patrick ALLAERT
#php.pecl on EFnet but nothing "official" AFAIK. Patrick 2010/4/29 Frederic Hardy : > Hello ! > > I have already seen in some post that there are some discussion on IRC. > Someone can say me the irc server and the channel ? > Or there is no official IRC channel ? > > Best regards, > Fred. > > --

[PHP-DEV] IRC ?

2010-04-29 Thread Frederic Hardy
Hello ! I have already seen in some post that there are some discussion on IRC. Someone can say me the irc server and the channel ? Or there is no official IRC channel ? Best regards, Fred. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.p

Re: [PHP-DEV] Obscure token name

2010-04-29 Thread Peter Lind
On 29 April 2010 15:42, mathieu.suen wrote: > Steven Van Poeck wrote: >>> >>> Folks, can't you just accept that T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM is intended to >>> make you smile?  There's nothing to see here, please move along. >>> >>> - Martin >> >> +1 >> > Don' t you read what I say? I'd be surprised if

Re: [PHP-DEV] trunk is alive and open

2010-04-29 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 29.04.2010, at 08:38, Jérôme Loyet wrote: > 2010/4/29 Andi Gutmans : >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Johannes Schlüter [mailto:johan...@schlueters.de] >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:40 AM >>> To: Pierre Joye >>> Cc: Gwynne Raskind; Ilia Alshanetsky; Kalle Sommer Nielsen; Lukas Ka

Re: [PHP-DEV] Obscure token name

2010-04-29 Thread mathieu.suen
Steven Van Poeck wrote: Folks, can't you just accept that T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM is intended to make you smile? There's nothing to see here, please move along. - Martin +1 Don' t you read what I say? So to be clear: I don't car the name of the token. I care not understanding the parser er

Re: [PHP-DEV] Obscure token name

2010-04-29 Thread Steven Van Poeck
Folks, can't you just accept that T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM is intended to make you smile? There's nothing to see here, please move along. - Martin +1 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP-DEV] Obscure token name

2010-04-29 Thread Dennis Haarbrink
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Martin Jansen [mailto:mar...@divbyzero.net] > Verzonden: donderdag 29 april 2010 14:07 > Aan: mathieu.suen > CC: PHP internals > Onderwerp: Re: [PHP-DEV] Obscure token name > > On 29.4.2010 13:13, mathieu.suen wrote: > > Johannes Schlüter wrote: > >> On

Re: [PHP-DEV] Obscure token name

2010-04-29 Thread Martin Jansen
On 29.4.2010 13:13, mathieu.suen wrote: > Johannes Schlüter wrote: >> On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 16:32 +0200, mathieu.suen wrote: >> >>> I am wondering why is the token name so incomprehensible ? >>> Like T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM... >> >> I don't mind if we change the name in the error message. Seems t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Obscure token name

2010-04-29 Thread mathieu.suen
Johannes Schlüter wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 16:32 +0200, mathieu.suen wrote: I am wondering why is the token name so incomprehensible ? Like T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM... I don't mind if we change the name in the error message. Seems to be an issue for some ... but I think you have to l

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] svn: /php/php-src/trunk/ ext/bz2/bz2.dsp ext/ctype/ctype.dsp ext/curl/curl.dsp ext/dba/dba.dsp ext/dom/dom.dsp ext/exif/exif.dsp ext/ext_skel_win32.php ext/gd/gd.dsp ext/gettex

2010-04-29 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Rob Richards wrote: > The discussion was a while ago (Steph was working on a way to autogenerate > them at the time). Unfortunately it failed miserably (buildconf error'd out) > when I tried to use it (tried it after the dsps had been removed). Until that > is working (or some

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Performance improvements

2010-04-29 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
We wanted to share some of our insights on the performance patches. Roman did some tests on the Doctrine 2 performance testsuite to check the benefits of the performance improvements and they are pretty impressive (Thanks Dimitry!). Our performance testsuite containts pretty intense and h

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] svn: /php/php-src/trunk/ ext/bz2/bz2.dsp ext/ctype/ctype.dsp ext/curl/curl.dsp ext/dba/dba.dsp ext/dom/dom.dsp ext/exif/exif.dsp ext/ext_skel_win32.php ext/gd/gd.dsp ext/gettex

2010-04-29 Thread Rob Richards
Right. My point is only that we keep them around until we can get the automatic generation squared away. Rob Dmitry Stogov wrote: Hi Rob, The problem is not to have them. The problem is to keep them in consistency in case someone adds/removes a file. I like the idea of automatic generation

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] svn: /php/php-src/trunk/ ext/bz2/bz2.dsp ext/ctype/ctype.dsp ext/curl/curl.dsp ext/dba/dba.dsp ext/dom/dom.dsp ext/exif/exif.dsp ext/ext_skel_win32.php ext/gd/gd.dsp ext/gett

2010-04-29 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > Hi Rob, > > The problem is not to have them. The problem is to keep them in consistency > in case someone adds/removes a file. I like the idea of automatic generation > much more. That's what cmake aims to. But having JS code to generate th

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] svn: /php/php-src/trunk/ ext/bz2/bz2.dsp ext/ctype/ctype.dsp ext/curl/curl.dsp ext/dba/dba.dsp ext/dom/dom.dsp ext/exif/exif.dsp ext/ext_skel_win32.php ext/gd/gd.dsp ext/gettex

2010-04-29 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Hi Rob, The problem is not to have them. The problem is to keep them in consistency in case someone adds/removes a file. I like the idea of automatic generation much more. Thanks. Dmitry. Rob Richards wrote: Hi Dmitry, The discussion was a while ago (Steph was working on a way to autogene

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] svn: /php/php-src/trunk/win32/build/ config.w32

2010-04-29 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:13, Pierre Joye wrote: >> pajoye                                   Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:13:15 + >> >> Revision: http://svn.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=298759 >> >> Log: >> - Adieu VC6/7/8, merci po

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] svn: /php/php-src/trunk/win32/build/ config.w32

2010-04-29 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:13, Pierre Joye wrote: > pajoye                                   Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:13:15 + > > Revision: http://svn.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=298759 > > Log: > - Adieu VC6/7/8, merci pour les bons et loyaux services In the offchance that some people a

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] svn: /php/php-src/trunk/ ext/bz2/bz2.dsp ext/ctype/ctype.dsp ext/curl/curl.dsp ext/dba/dba.dsp ext/dom/dom.dsp ext/exif/exif.dsp ext/ext_skel_win32.php ext/gd/gd.dsp ext/gettex

2010-04-29 Thread Rob Richards
Hi Dmitry, The discussion was a while ago (Steph was working on a way to autogenerate them at the time). Unfortunately it failed miserably (buildconf error'd out) when I tried to use it (tried it after the dsps had been removed). Until that is working (or some other mechanism is in place to g

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] svn: /php/php-src/trunk/ ext/bz2/bz2.dsp ext/ctype/ctype.dsp ext/curl/curl.dsp ext/dba/dba.dsp ext/dom/dom.dsp ext/exif/exif.dsp ext/ext_skel_win32.php ext/gd/gd.dsp ext/gett

2010-04-29 Thread Pierre Joye
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > Hi Rob, > > May be I missed the discussion... > > I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have all this scarp in SVN. > Personally, I won't support these DSP files just because I don't use Visual > Studio 6.0 to build php. This method was deprec

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] svn: /php/php-src/trunk/ ext/bz2/bz2.dsp ext/ctype/ctype.dsp ext/curl/curl.dsp ext/dba/dba.dsp ext/dom/dom.dsp ext/exif/exif.dsp ext/ext_skel_win32.php ext/gd/gd.dsp ext/gettex

2010-04-29 Thread Dmitry Stogov
Hi Rob, May be I missed the discussion... I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have all this scarp in SVN. Personally, I won't support these DSP files just because I don't use Visual Studio 6.0 to build php. This method was deprecated for ages. I'm also not sure if next php version is going to

Re: [PHP-DEV] backslash, really ... ?

2010-04-29 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 23:45, Sylvain Rabot wrote: > You chose for the namespace feature, a great feature besides, the > backslash ?? really ?? Come on guys, among all the possibilities, you > have chosen, according to me, the most hideous character possible. I've been using namespaces for sever