Re: [PHP-DEV] are there alternate interfaces to the bug tracking system?

2009-07-04 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 20:15, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 18:43, Sean Coates wrote: >>> Just another question: may you please list me all the possible >>> 'Status' field values? In particular we are interested in those >>> 'Status'es that identify the bug as closed and "wontfix". >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Type hinting revisited for PHP 5.3

2009-07-04 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! RE your second patch, from http://ilia.ws/patch/type_hint_53_v2.txt Some notes on this patch: - I still think the matter of interfaces and inheritance should be dealt with (and just comparing hints is not enough, it should be full LSP-compliant check). - It looks like you can't have c

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 04.07.2009, at 21:10, Paul Biggar wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: I can't see the difference between your proposal and the conclusion I reached yesterday? (which was that there is a near consensus around strict checks by default, with casts allowed with

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Biggar
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >> I can't see the difference between your proposal and the conclusion I >> reached yesterday? >> >> (which was that there is a near consensus around strict checks by >> default, with casts allowed with some syntax). > > Well to me it Sounded

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Type hinting revisited for PHP 5.3

2009-07-04 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
It should be fine Ilia Alshanetsky On 2009-07-04, at 2:49 PM, Paul Biggar wrote: Hi Ilia, On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: There has been quite a bit of discussion on this list, IRC, developer meetings, etc... about introduction of type hinting to PHP. Most peopl

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Type hinting revisited for PHP 5.3

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Biggar
Hi Ilia, On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > There has been quite a bit of discussion on this list, IRC, developer > meetings, etc... about introduction of type hinting to PHP. Most people RE your second patch, from http://ilia.ws/patch/type_hint_53_v2.txt Index: Zend/zen

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread Stan Vassilev
I can't see the difference between your proposal and the conclusion I reached yesterday? (which was that there is a near consensus around strict checks by default, with casts allowed with some syntax). Well to me it Sounded like you wanted to Rely on Standard Type juggling and what i am pro

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread Pierre Joye
hi. On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Well to me it Sounded like you wanted to Rely on Standard Type juggling and > what i am proposing is more strict than that. More over i am Not convinced > that strict should Be the Default. The default is what we have now (implicit m

Re: [PHP-DEV] are there alternate interfaces to the bug tracking system?

2009-07-04 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 18:43, Sean Coates wrote: >> Just another question: may you please list me all the possible >> 'Status' field values? In particular we are interested in those >> 'Status'es that identify the bug as closed and "wontfix". > > I believe all current statuses are declared here: >

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 04.07.2009, at 16:05, Paul Biggar wrote: Hi Lukas, On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Last evening I put together a quick proposal for a weak and strict checking approach, since I felt that things were being concluded a bit prematurely. More importantly I detai

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread David Zülke
On 04.07.2009, at 14:27, Derick Rethans wrote: So I would propose to: 1. have ilia's strict typing patch (minus scalar and numeric) 2. have a patch that also adds for casting type hints from your RFC. Those could (and should) be considered as *two* new features. As for syntax, I believe the

Re: [PHP-DEV] are there alternate interfaces to the bug tracking system?

2009-07-04 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi all, On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 18:20, Sean Coates wrote: >> so what i'm wondering is: is there an easily parseable or structured >> interface (xmlrpc, soap, read-only JSON export, whatever) to the php.net >> bts >> that could be used to get a bug's information?  or would such a bts-link >> service

Re: [PHP-DEV] are there alternate interfaces to the bug tracking system?

2009-07-04 Thread Sean Coates
Just another question: may you please list me all the possible 'Status' field values? In particular we are interested in those 'Status'es that identify the bug as closed and "wontfix". I believe all current statuses are declared here: http://cvs.php.net/viewvc.cgi/php-bugs-web/include/functions.

Re: [PHP-DEV] are there alternate interfaces to the bug tracking system?

2009-07-04 Thread Sean Coates
so what i'm wondering is: is there an easily parseable or structured interface (xmlrpc, soap, read-only JSON export, whatever) to the php.net bts that could be used to get a bug's information? or would such a bts- link service need to resort to scraping the page for a particular bug's status

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Biggar
Hi Lukas, On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Last evening I put together a quick proposal for a weak and strict checking > approach, since I felt that things were being concluded a bit prematurely. > More importantly I detailed the issues I see with a pure strict type > che

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 4 Jul 2009, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > I am publishing it a bit prematurely imho, but its not without merit > at this stage either and since I will be busy playing frisbee all > weekend, I thought I get it out there for people to comment right now: > http://wiki.php.net/rfc/typechecking

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread Arvids Godjuks
Hello Internals. I'm a userland PHP developer, I readed all the proposals about type hinting and did some code writing with type hinting to see how it looks like. Well, to my understanding it's a mess if both types of type hinting are done. Here is an example of a function: function calculate_age

Re: [PHP-DEV] are there alternate interfaces to the bug tracking system?

2009-07-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 4 Jul 2009, sean finney wrote: > so what i'm wondering is: is there an easily parseable or structured > interface (xmlrpc, soap, read-only JSON export, whatever) to the php.net bts > that could be used to get a bug's information? or would such a bts-link > service need to resort to scrapi

[PHP-DEV] are there alternate interfaces to the bug tracking system?

2009-07-04 Thread sean finney
hi everyone, (if there's a better place to ask this, my apologies and feel free to redirect me!) does anyone know here if there is any machine-friendly interface to the php bug tracking system? in debian we have a service called "bts-link"[1] which we can use to track "forwarded" bugs in remote

Re: [PHP-DEV] Veracity of statement that FastCGI is always enabled cannot be disabled in PHP 5.3

2009-07-04 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jul 3, 2009, at 10:58, Gwynne Raskind wrote: On Jul 3, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On http://www.php.net/manual/en/migration53.sapi.php it says of PHP 5.3 that "FastCGI is now always enabled and can not be disabled. See sapi/cgi/CHANGES for more details." The same text appea

Re: [PHP-DEV] weak and strict type checking RFC

2009-07-04 Thread Jordi Boggiano
On 7/4/09, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Last evening I put together a quick proposal for a weak and strict checking > approach, since I felt that things were being concluded a bit prematurely. > More importantly I detailed the issues I see with a pure strict type > checking only approach. Thanks f