I don't actually see early binding as being much of a problem, the real
problem is when the same class is both early and late bound. If you
consistently always bind early or always bind late, opcode caches should
be quite happy to let you do that. But if you mix the two, things get
That's w
Hello Stanislav,
Friday, March 14, 2008, 6:48:52 PM, you wrote:
> Hi!
>> Lemme just think, doing inheritance at compile time before we send the stuff
>> to an opcode cache can be slower then? How is that possible? After all late
>> binding means we do it at run time. And no matter how much faste
Marcus Boerger wrote:
Hello Stanislav,
Friday, March 14, 2008, 5:51:49 PM, you wrote:
But that means we are compiling inheritance when a file is loaded form
the cache. The goal should be to compiling inheritance when writing to
the opcode cache file. All we achieve here is a slow down. If ther
Hello Pierre,
yep, stupid me. I got confused by your wording :-)
marcus
Friday, March 14, 2008, 4:42:32 PM, you wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello Pierre,
>>
>> it is unused code that does not work as intended and causes trouble. And
Hello Stanislav,
Friday, March 14, 2008, 5:51:49 PM, you wrote:
>> But that means we are compiling inheritance when a file is loaded form
>> the cache. The goal should be to compiling inheritance when writing to
>> the opcode cache file. All we achieve here is a slow down. If there is
> You can
But that means we are compiling inheritance when a file is loaded form
the cache. The goal should be to compiling inheritance when writing to
the opcode cache file. All we achieve here is a slow down. If there is
You can not do that. You do not know that until runtime.
something that makes thi
Hello Dmitry,
Friday, March 14, 2008, 5:08:18 PM, you wrote:
>> I do not want to remove early binding. In fact I always
>> wanted to have early binding as much as possible. Because
>> that is faster and makes compiler caches easier. So why slow
>> down stuff? A Compiler cache wants everythign
> I do not want to remove early binding. In fact I always
> wanted to have early binding as much as possible. Because
> that is faster and makes compiler caches easier. So why slow
> down stuff? A Compiler cache wants everythign as static as
> possible which means a compiler cache wants early b
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Pierre,
>
> it is unused code that does not work as intended and causes trouble. And
> at leats it makes maintanance harder. So that is a very big reason to drop
> it.
Yes, I fully agree (you may have missed the
Hello Dmitry,
Friday, March 14, 2008, 9:46:41 AM, you wrote:
> Hi Marcus,
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:27 PM
>> To: Dmitry Stogov
>> Cc: Andi Gutmans; Stas Malyshev; phpxcache; internals@lists.php.net
>> Subj
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> however in
> PHP_5_3 we even keep ze1_compatibility_mode.
> I'm not able to remove it.
WHy not? It's quite broken anyway.
Derick
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Hello Pierre,
it is unused code that does not work as intended and causes trouble. And
at leats it makes maintanance harder. So that is a very big reason to drop
it.
marcus
Friday, March 14, 2008, 11:11:06 AM, you wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Hannes Magnusson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Hannes Magnusson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Dmitry Stogov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Removing early-binding at all might be a subject for PHP6, however in
> > PHP_5_3 we even keep ze1_compatibility_mode.
>
> http://n
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Dmitry Stogov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Removing early-binding at all might be a subject for PHP6, however in
> PHP_5_3 we even keep ze1_compatibility_mode.
http://news.php.net/php.internals/36085
-Hannes
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Hi Marcus,
> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:27 PM
> To: Dmitry Stogov
> Cc: Andi Gutmans; Stas Malyshev; phpxcache; internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Patch for opcode caches
>
>
> Hello Dmitry,
>
> M
Hi Stefan,
I suggest you to remove words like 'discussion' from the wiki,
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