On Dec 3, 2007, at 10:30 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Ronald Chmara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the *actual cost and complexity* involved in implementing
(possibly many) different user-selectable memory management systems,
and what other future benefits/drawbacks
On Dec 3, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Gregory Beaver wrote:
Brian Shire wrote:
On Dec 3, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
I am a developer on a CMS also which uses the auto-include
functionality to
include many classes over many files. Each request can include
up to 30
different files.
> -Original Message-
> From: Ronald Chmara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:06 PM
> To: Andi Gutmans
> Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Garbage collector patch
> I'm really hesitant to even *mention* this idea, but
>
> Could "alternate"
On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote:
Hi all,
Was hoping to send this off earlier but I was travelling for the past
week and had very limited email access.
As promised in the past few weeks we have spent a significant
amount of
time in reviewing the garbage collector work and tes
Brian Shire wrote:
>
> On Dec 3, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
>
>>> I am a developer on a CMS also which uses the auto-include
>>> functionality to
>>> include many classes over many files. Each request can include up to 30
>>> different files. The speed increase is around the 15%
One thing to consider is changing json_encode to add a header
Content-type: application/json (or x-javascript), unless the additional
arguments are used..
That way someone using the function to intermingle with HTML will be
faced with the fact they have to encode the output, otherwise it breaks
such switches only add more complexity, confusion for users and
addtional trouble to distributors.
FWIW, amen to that.
- Steph
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2007/12/3, Ilia Alshanetsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I think the patch does have a value,
yes, it does, what worries me is the introduction of yet another
non-sense ini setting that modified the very engine behaviuor.. I
think we all agree that there are way too many of those do we ?
. My
> sugges
First of all big thanks for Dmitry and David for spending time on this
project and continuing to improve the original patch. Based on the
results so far, I think the patch does have a value, but certainly not
in a general case. Relative simple scripts have little to gain from it
and only to
Alan Knowles wrote:
> One thing to consider is changing json_encode to add a header
> Content-type: application/json (or x-javascript), unless the additional
> arguments are used..
> That way someone using the function to intermingle with HTML will be
> faced with the fact they have to encode the o
I can certainly see a use for strings as Value Objects, if only for
readability. Chaining a series of methods is much more readable (to me at
least) than wrapping a series of functions. See:
$str = $str->substr(0, 5)->upper()->trim('\n');
vs.
$str = trim(strtoupper(substr(0, 5, $str)), '\n')
Hi!
Can you provide some benchmark setups that this could be researched -
i.e. describe what was benchmarked and how to reproduce it?
I have already played with this topic. If you don't have an opcode cache
lazy loading is a good solution: it is worth loading a code only when
it is needed. Bu
On Dec 3, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
I am a developer on a CMS also which uses the auto-include
functionality to
include many classes over many files. Each request can include up
to 30
different files. The speed increase is around the 15% mark when
combining
the files.
Hi Stats,
Everybody is providing clear and proven results. You are the only one who is
throwing around hypothetical numbers (that 5% figure comes out of your
head). Can you please be more responsible and provide some real results ?
Also, pretty much every feature of a language can be abused. From
One thing to consider is changing json_encode to add a header
Content-type: application/json (or x-javascript), unless the additional
arguments are used..
That way someone using the function to intermingle with HTML will be
faced with the fact they have to encode the output, otherwise it breaks
I made a wrong assumption in the first patch and although it worked,
stream_set_write_buffer() did return an error.
This one is fixes the return value issue :
--- main/streams/xp_socket.c.orig 2007-12-01 16:56:29.0 +0100
+++ main/streams/xp_socket.c2007-12-03 21:07:02.
This is just a different way of encoding Javascript which depending on
the context of use will enable Javascript to be embedded securely. Not
providing an alternate encoding is a bit like arguing that we shouldn't
have base64_encode() because if used incorrectly it could be insecure.
I'm not sa
Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
>> Stuff like this often isn't completely deterministic. The attack
>> vectors will move around and new ones will be discovered but since the
>> syntax Sara is proposing is completely valid JSON it gives people
>> another tool. Documenting specific attack vectors is usef
May we get a reply to Bug #38915?
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Stuff like this often isn't completely deterministic. The attack
vectors will move around and new ones will be discovered but since the
syntax Sara is proposing is completely valid JSON it gives people
another tool. Documenting specific attack vectors is useful too, of
course, but a secondary co
I am a developer on a CMS also which uses the auto-include functionality to
include many classes over many files. Each request can include up to 30
different files. The speed increase is around the 15% mark when combining
the files. This is with APC installed too.
Can you provide some benchmar
Remember, we both found, independently, that combining separate files
yields from a 10-30% performance increase. I have only talked to 2
On synthetic benchmarks. On real apps, which do databases, calculations,
network, etc. that would be probably no more than 5%, probably even
less. And I don
On Dec 3, 2007 4:49 PM, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>
> > Sorry about that. Does the attached PDFed screenshot work for you?
>
> No, as you can't attach files here
>
> Derick
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> Sorry about that. Does the attached PDFed screenshot work for you?
No, as you can't attach files here
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Sorry about that. Does the attached PDFed screenshot work for you?
If only we knew how to publish documents on that 'web thing.
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Argh. Here you go: http://cvs.php.net/~andi/GC_email.pdf
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Z. Yang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:43 PM
> To: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Garbage collector patch
>
> Daniel Brown wrote:
> > If for some
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Hi,
yes exactly, there was no PDF attachment. Interestingly the signature
was a separate attachment ...
thanks
- - Markus
Daniel Brown wrote:
> Markus,
>
> If for some reason the PDF attachment didn't come through to you
> on the list, let
Daniel Brown wrote:
> If for some reason the PDF attachment didn't come through to you
> on the list, let me know and I'll upload it to one of my servers for
> you to download and use, as well.
The PDF didn't make it through for me. Can you upload it?
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Markus,
If for some reason the PDF attachment didn't come through to you
on the list, let me know and I'll upload it to one of my servers for
you to download and use, as well.
On Dec 3, 2007 4:40 PM, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That looks great, Andi.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
That looks great, Andi.
Thanks.
On Dec 3, 2007 4:38 PM, Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry about that. Does the attached PDFed screenshot work for you?
>
> Andi
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daniel Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 03,
That'd be great.
Dmitry, David, can you please send the updated patch to the list?
Andi
> -Original Message-
> From: Markus Fischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:31 PM
> To: Daniel Brown
> Cc: Andi Gutmans; internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] G
Sorry about that. Does the attached PDFed screenshot work for you?
Andi
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:21 PM
> To: Andi Gutmans
> Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Garbage collector patch
>
> On D
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Hi,
Daniel Brown wrote:
> I don't know about how it worked for anyone else, but the tables
> didn't display properly on Gmail, so I had a hard time keeping up with
> the performance differences. If you have this in a separate file,
> could you se
On Dec 3, 2007 4:01 PM, Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Was hoping to send this off earlier but I was travelling for the past
> week and had very limited email access.
>
> As promised in the past few weeks we have spent a significant amount of
> time in reviewing the garba
Hi all,
Was hoping to send this off earlier but I was travelling for the past
week and had very limited email access.
As promised in the past few weeks we have spent a significant amount of
time in reviewing the garbage collector work and testing it in our
performance lab. Dmitry has been exch
Thanks. I was not aware of SPL's file and array classes. As for the string
class, some of it is done, and should work in 5.x HEAD. I fully plan to add
Unicode support for PHP 6's HEAD. Is there any other concerns you may have
about a string class (other than it being a big task)? I think it would b
Hey Rasmus,
You looking for help to build that out? That project looks like
TONS-OF-FUN (r), and I'd be interested in helping out with it. I think
it would be great to see people on there and all the projects they are
associated with, kinda like a socialcoder project ;)
-ralph
Rasmus Lerd
Nah, it does more than that.
David Coallier wrote:
> You mean something like http://pear.php.net/map ?
>
> On Dec 3, 2007 12:44 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have some new code for it. I'll try to find some time to update it
>> over the next couple of weeks.
>>
>> -Rasmus
>>
You mean something like http://pear.php.net/map ?
On Dec 3, 2007 12:44 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have some new code for it. I'll try to find some time to update it
> over the next couple of weeks.
>
> -Rasmus
>
>
> Silvano Girardi Jr wrote:
> > Gentleman,
> > This morning
Hello Jordan,
have a look at the SPL extension (Standard PHP Library) which introduces
a few things (for instance SplFile). Have a look here: http://php.net/~helly
I do not think we need a string class right now unless you want to provide a
full unicode one that later works with HEAD seamingly.
I have some new code for it. I'll try to find some time to update it
over the next couple of weeks.
-Rasmus
Silvano Girardi Jr wrote:
> Gentleman,
> This morning I went to see Lukas speaking at the Brazilian PHP Conference
> and he mentioned http://people.php.net
> He said that it started with t
Alexey Zakhlestin wrote:
> On 12/2/07, Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The \u syntax is specific to JSON, yes.
>
> \u syntax is specific to javascripts string literals, regular
> expressions and identifiers[1]
> And JSON is not the only way to deliver data into javascript. Manual
> ap
I am currently working on a Object-Oriented Library extension that wraps a
lot of functionality in PHP's standard library dealing with strings,
arrays, fileIO, etc. into classes.
(String class, Collection class, etc.)
This would allow end-users to create objects that represent data types and
res
On 03.12.2007 18:19, Rachmel, Nir (Nir) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been doing some code-reading. Why is the RSHUTDOWN function for
> syslog ext called only when run under win32?
> Shouldn't the cleanup happen on linux as well?
`man closelog` says it's not required.
DESCRIPTION
closelog() clo
Hi,
I have been doing some code-reading. Why is the RSHUTDOWN function for
syslog ext called only when run under win32?
Shouldn't the cleanup happen on linux as well?
Another question is for the use of zend_strndup instead of one of the
non-persistent memory allocation functions (i.e. estrndup()
PHP 6 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net
Num Status Summary (63 total including feature requests)
===[*General Issues]==
26771 Suspended register_tick_funtions crash under threaded webservers
43408 Open get_called_class n
PHP 4 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net
Num Status Summary (626 total including feature requests)
===[*Compile Issues]==
43389 Open configure ignoring --without-cdb flag
===[*Pr
I am a developer on a CMS also which uses the auto-include functionality to
include many classes over many files. Each request can include up to 30
different files. The speed increase is around the 15% mark when combining
the files. This is with APC installed too.
I heard rumours however that ph
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