Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing function names as method

2006-09-13 Thread danhen
>primitive/common names is discouraged for non-core extensions >-Sara So what could be a proper naming convention for such classes? My Idea is: -PHPString -PHPInteger/PHPInt -... Any suggestion is welcome. Daniel -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Return type hints

2006-09-13 Thread Terje Slettebø
>From: "Brian Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > --- Start --- > > > > class Something > > { > > public function __construct() > > { > > // Oops, forgot to initialise $this->something... > > } > > > > public function f() > > { > > return $this->something; > > } > > > > private $so

[PHP-DEV] Re: Re: __autoloading and functions

2006-09-13 Thread Terje Slettebø
Hi François. I think this sounds like a great idea. :) We do something similar with our class loader, in that it scans a lib-directory and its subfolders, building a map of class name to filename (it doesn't open the files - it only builds the map based on file naming convention, allowing it to in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Making ArrayAccess objects more array-like?

2006-09-13 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Terje, sorry i often only remember the outcome. best regards marcus Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 9:52:57 AM, you wrote: > Hi Marcus. >> long ago we decided against supporting it in the array functions. > Ok, thanks. Could I ask what the reasons were (Alternatively get a pointer >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Return type hints

2006-09-13 Thread Brian Moon
--- Start --- class Something { public function __construct() { // Oops, forgot to initialise $this->something... } public function f() { return $this->something; } private $something; } error_reporting(E_ALL); $something=new Something; echo $something->f()+10; // Prin

Re: [PHP-DEV] Const member functions

2006-09-13 Thread Terje Slettebø
> > In C++, it's possible to declare member functions "const" meaning they don't > > change the object they operate on. This can help reason about programs, > > because if you have something like (PHP syntax): > > It would be pretty hard to enforce in PHP - how do you know the object > is not chang

Re: [PHP-DEV] Return type hints

2006-09-13 Thread Terje Slettebø
> Terje Slettebø wrote: > > I'd say that's debatable. :) Yes, it can make it more convenient to handle > > data coming from outside the script (such as forms), but it can also hide > > bugs. While it can be argued that conversions between, say, arithmetic types > > (int and floats) may be useful, a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Return type hints

2006-09-13 Thread Terje Slettebø
>From: "Richard Quadling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 13/09/06, Terje Slettebø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >From: "Richard Quadling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On 12/09/06, Terje Slettebø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > function f(Something $value) /** @return SomethingElse */ > > > > { > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing functionnames as method

2006-09-13 Thread Sara Golemon
> As I wrote, I've looked around existing extensions which redefine function > names > (SPL and zip) and there I found those Macro-Definitions and thought this > could be > the solution. > Fair enoughI must not have read that in my review of the thread... >>> #define string_G(v) (string_glob

[PHP-DEV] Re: Tweaking "expects parameter # to be..." message

2006-09-13 Thread Hannes Magnusson
Hi Andrei & Marcus At first glance it looks like the only place we use "instance of " is with type hinting: Argument # passed to must be an instance of , instance of given But the rest is "object of class ": Cannot use object of type as array Trying to clone an uncloneable object of class Ex

Re: [PHP-DEV] Const member functions

2006-09-13 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
In C++, it's possible to declare member functions "const" meaning they don't change the object they operate on. This can help reason about programs, because if you have something like (PHP syntax): It would be pretty hard to enforce in PHP - how do you know the object is not changed, without st

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing function names as method

2006-09-13 Thread danhen
>Solution: Change "string_functions" to "NULL" in zend_module_entry. Thanks! You rescued my extension. Now I can finish and test the class. >> #define STRING_METHOD(function_name) \ >> ZEND_NAMED_FUNCTION(c_stringclass_##function_name) >> #define STRING_ME(name, arg_info, flags) \ >> ZE

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Tweaking "expects parameter # to be..." message

2006-09-13 Thread Andrei Zmievski
Show me how many times we use "instance" versus "object" in PHP. -Andrei On Sep 11, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Marcus Boerger wrote: Hello Andrei, for some reason i like "instance of class" better than "class object". The reason is that we have instances rather than objects - So it's a purist th

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing functionnames as method names

2006-09-13 Thread Sara Golemon
> zend_module_entry string_module_entry = { > #if ZEND_MODULE_API_NO >= 20010901 >STANDARD_MODULE_HEADER, > #endif >"string", >string_functions, >PHP_MINIT(string), >PHP_MSHUTDOWN(string), > PHP_RINIT(string), /* Replace with NULL if there's nothing to do at request start */

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing functio nnames as method names

2006-09-13 Thread danhen
>Can you show some code? It will help to figure out >what's wrong. Yes I can :) stringclass.h #ifndef PHP_STRINGCLASS_H #define PHP_STRINGCLASS_H extern zend_module_entry string_module_entry; #define phpext_string_ptr &string_module_entry #ifdef PHP_WIN32 #define PHP_STRING_API __declspec(dll

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing functionnames as method names

2006-09-13 Thread Pierre
On 9/13/06, Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, as I said it works well before 5.2 except for zip_* function name and a uip class. I mean for zip_* function names and a zip class :) -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing functionnames as method names

2006-09-13 Thread Pierre
Hello, On 9/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It is possible to name a method like an existing function, I'm not sure >what you are doing exactly but it works here. I've tried: STRING_METHOD(String, trim) {...} (Yes, I'm trying to build a string class) that means that I also

Re: [PHP-DEV] Return type hints

2006-09-13 Thread Brian Moon
Terje Slettebø wrote: I'd say that's debatable. :) Yes, it can make it more convenient to handle data coming from outside the script (such as forms), but it can also hide bugs. While it can be argued that conversions between, say, arithmetic types (int and floats) may be useful, allowing conversi

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing function names as method names

2006-09-13 Thread danhen
>It is possible to name a method like an existing function, I'm not sure >what you are doing exactly but it works here. I've tried: STRING_METHOD(String, trim) {...} (Yes, I'm trying to build a string class) that means that I also redefinied the Macros. Then I've changed the Macros from PHP_METH

Re: [PHP-DEV] Making ArrayAccess objects more array-like?

2006-09-13 Thread Terje Slettebø
Hi Marcus. > long ago we decided against supporting it in the array functions. Ok, thanks. Could I ask what the reasons were (Alternatively get a pointer to the discussion)? Regards, Terje > best regards > marcus > > Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 8:39:57 AM, you wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > (

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing functionnames as method names

2006-09-13 Thread Pierre
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:35:16 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ...Just forgot to CC... > >you can use any function name as method name without a clash. you > >just cannot use language constructs that aren't real functions like > >"empty", "echo" or "require" as method names. > > >this question bet

Re: [PHP-DEV] Return type hints

2006-09-13 Thread Ron Korving
""Richard Quadling"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On 13/09/06, Terje Slettebø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .. > The issue then becomes what would happen to a value of the wrong type? > > You either have the option of using PHP's own internal casting > mecha

[PHP-DEV] Re: Tweaking "expects parameter # to be..." message

2006-09-13 Thread Hannes Magnusson
Either way is fine with me, as long as I get the class name in the warning -Hannes On 9/11/06, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Andrei, for some reason i like "instance of class" better than "class object". The reason is that we have instances rather than objects - So it's a p

Re: [PHP-DEV] Return type hints

2006-09-13 Thread Richard Quadling
On 13/09/06, Terje Slettebø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "Richard Quadling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 12/09/06, Terje Slettebø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > function f(Something $value) /** @return SomethingElse */ > > { > > // ... > > } > > But one of the first things we are told about

Re: [PHP-DEV] Return type hints

2006-09-13 Thread Terje Slettebø
>From: "Richard Quadling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 12/09/06, Terje Slettebø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > function f(Something $value) /** @return SomethingElse */ > > { > > // ... > > } > > One of the good things about PHP is the loose typing (1.00 == 1 == "1" > sort of thing as I understand

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing function names as method names

2006-09-13 Thread danhen
...Just forgot to CC... >you can use any function name as method name without a clash. you just >cannot use language constructs that aren't real functions like >"empty", "echo" or "require" as method names. >this question better belongs to php-general, btw. Sorry if I didn't made myself clear eno

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing functionnames as method names

2006-09-13 Thread messju mohr
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 10:09:08AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > i just was wondering how existing function names could be used as method names > in OO-Extensions for PHP5. I've looked through the SPL-source where this is > done with > functions like current() and next() in the iterat

[PHP-DEV] PHP5 extensions: using existing functionnames as method names

2006-09-13 Thread danhen
Hi, i just was wondering how existing function names could be used as method names in OO-Extensions for PHP5. I've looked through the SPL-source where this is done with functions like current() and next() in the iterators, but I couldn't find a hint how to do this. Can someone give me a little

Re: [PHP-DEV] Return type hints

2006-09-13 Thread Richard Quadling
On 12/09/06, Terje Slettebø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: function f(Something $value) /** @return SomethingElse */ { // ... } One of the good things about PHP is the loose typing (1.00 == 1 == "1" sort of thing as I understand it). This has been useful. But one of the first things we are tol

[PHP-DEV] Const member functions

2006-09-13 Thread Terje Slettebø
(This may be considered too radical for some, but I ask, anyway... Also, if there's a more appropropriate place to ask such questions, let me know, but as this is the developer's list, it seemed like the right place) In C++, it's possible to declare member functions "const" meaning they don't chan

Re: [PHP-DEV] Making ArrayAccess objects more array-like?

2006-09-13 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Terje, long ago we decided against supporting it in the array functions. best regards marcus Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 8:39:57 AM, you wrote: > Hi all. > (Again, I've searched the archives, but haven't found anything on this one) > The ArrayAccess interface allows one to essential