Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary Conclusion

2006-05-19 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Markus, the question alone makes me question if it was worth the effort starting it :-) best regards marcus Friday, May 19, 2006, 11:23:32 PM, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Is there an "UPGRADING 5.1 to 5.2"? I think there it would make sense, too. >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary Conclusion

2006-05-19 Thread Markus Fischer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there an "UPGRADING 5.1 to 5.2"? I think there it would make sense, too. - - Markus Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > I'll add a note about it to the 5.2 README file. > > > On 19-May-06, at 11:00 AM, Brian Moon wrote: > >> Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >>> S

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Release Process Sucks

2006-05-19 Thread Brion Vibber
Brian Moon wrote: > Phil Driscoll wrote: >> Please add and/subtract to/from the above lists. > > MediaWiki [snip] > > Those are the big in their space. We use MediaWiki daily in our company. We're already testers. Note that MediaWiki uses few (if any) $_POST arrays, so we encountered no proble

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary Conclusion

2006-05-19 Thread Steph Fox
Cool. I just had a horrible vision of hundreds of reports of 'strange crashes' :) When E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR is triggers and not handled, it gets translated to an E_ERROR "Catchable fatal error...". On 19-May-06, at 12:10 PM, Steph Fox wrote: Back to my original (off-list) question - what h

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary Conclusion

2006-05-19 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
When E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR is triggers and not handled, it gets translated to an E_ERROR "Catchable fatal error...". On 19-May-06, at 12:10 PM, Steph Fox wrote: Back to my original (off-list) question - what happens if people don't have E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR level error reporting switched on?

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary Conclusion

2006-05-19 Thread Steph Fox
Back to my original (off-list) question - what happens if people don't have E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR level error reporting switched on? Does it fall back to E_ERROR or does the code fail silently? I'll add a note about it to the 5.2 README file. On 19-May-06, at 11:00 AM, Brian Moon wrote: Ili

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary Conclusion

2006-05-19 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
I'll add a note about it to the 5.2 README file. On 19-May-06, at 11:00 AM, Brian Moon wrote: Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: So the only affect is that value numeric value of E_ALL is greater then it was before. Marcus has already applied patch to this affect a few days ago (Thanks!). This need

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary Conclusion

2006-05-19 Thread Brian Moon
Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: So the only affect is that value numeric value of E_ALL is greater then it was before. Marcus has already applied patch to this affect a few days ago (Thanks!). This needs to be made obvious in the release notes or something. Users that set their error level in apache

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Release Process Sucks

2006-05-19 Thread Edin Kadribasic
Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: Phil, Based on past experience in dealing with primary testers we usually only get responses when things go bad, as such waiting for positive responses until rolling the final is not practical in my opinion. I think the best I can propose is that we give testers at

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Release Process Sucks

2006-05-19 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
Phil, Based on past experience in dealing with primary testers we usually only get responses when things go bad, as such waiting for positive responses until rolling the final is not practical in my opinion. I think the best I can propose is that we give testers at least one week to try t

[PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary Conclusion

2006-05-19 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
I'd like to thank everyone for voting on the topic and making their opinions known. The conclusion is that: E_STRICT will not be a part of E_ALL, however E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR will be, this means no "new" errors will appear for current user, as E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR is similar to what E_ERROR w