Re: [PHP-DEV] private, protected, readonly, public

2006-05-18 Thread Jeff Moore
Hello Stanislav, On May 17, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: JM>>individual properties, just as you can in Java, C#, Ruby, Delphi, JM>>Python, Visual Basic, Objective C, Smalltalk, and sometimes C++. (To JM>>the best of my knowledge.) Read only is a special case of this JM>>capab

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary

2006-05-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 12:23 17/05/2006, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 02:26 17/05/2006, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: There are 2 PHP 5.2 changes there has been a lot of back and forth flaming going around and we need to finally come to a decision about. The two topics are: Inclusion of E_STRICT and E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR into

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fw: #37507 [Bgs]: loading the php_printer.dllextension causes php to crash

2006-05-18 Thread Steph Fox
Frank, I think I'm seeing the same with PHP-GTK - but I'll get back to you on that. This seams to be a problem in TSRM. I get this error when using the CLI version but not with the CGI version. I think this is the same error reported with the tidy extension (and possible others that register a

[PHP-DEV] Fw: #37507 [Bgs]: loading the php_printer.dll extension causes php to crash

2006-05-18 Thread Frank M. Kromann
This seams to be a problem in TSRM. I get this error when using the CLI version but not with the CGI version. I think this is the same error reported with the tidy extension (and possible others that register a dtor for global data. Looking a bit at the code I see one difference between CLI and CG

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary

2006-05-18 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Richard, well my mail was a bit out of context or at the wrong reply to Sebastian. He was talking about issues with callin static functions with bypassing $this as a parameter best regards marcus Friday, May 19, 2006, 12:22:36 AM, you wrote: >>> Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Addit

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary

2006-05-18 Thread Richard Lynch
>> Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Addition of support for dynamic statics ala: class foo {} foo::$bar = 1; On Wed, May 17, 2006 2:03 pm, Marcus Boerger wrote: > there is a technical issue besides slowdown. We have to work around > the > fact that suddenly a function might get $this as a nor

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary

2006-05-18 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Tue, May 16, 2006 6:26 pm, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > Inclusion of E_STRICT and E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR into E_ALL I'd say E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR has to go into E_ALL as it was effectively there previously, as part of E_ERROR. So +1 there. As far as E

Re: [PHP-DEV] Flamewar Summary

2006-05-18 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, May 16, 2006 6:26 pm, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > Inclusion of E_STRICT and E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR into E_ALL -0.5 > Addition of support for dynamic statics ala: class foo {} foo::$bar = > 1; +1 -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing

Re: [PHP-DEV] private, protected, readonly, public

2006-05-18 Thread D. Dante Lorenso
Jeff Moore wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 7:28 PM, D. Dante Lorenso wrote: I'm not familiar with this OOP concept from any other language. Perhaps it exists, but if it doesn't, is there a reason why? Its hard to find a major OO language that does not have property/accessor method support. It's n

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Release Process Sucks

2006-05-18 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 18 May 2006, Phil Driscoll wrote: > On Wednesday 17 May 2006 17:59, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > > Let's keep this number of lists to the minimum. Thanks to Lukas, we > > already have a wiki with all this information, lets keep using it, > > the release process is complex enough already witho

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Release Process Sucks

2006-05-18 Thread Phil Driscoll
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 17:59, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > Let's keep this number of lists to the minimum. Thanks to Lukas, we > already have a wiki with all this information, lets keep using it, > the release process is complex enough already without having to > scramble around looking for informat