Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.4 Breaks Backwards Compatibility

2005-06-18 Thread Andi Gutmans
I don't have time until Momday to run 4.3 and 4.4 with that code (bug #20953) Besides the warning will the result (even if bogus) be the same for both versions? At 07:41 PM 6/18/2005 +0200, Derick Rethans wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Andi Gutmans wrote: > http://phplens.com/phpeverywhere/?q=n

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: cross

2005-06-18 Thread Colin Ross
Maintaining a PEAR package (Services_ExchangeRates). My PEAR account is cross. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] In regards to E_STRICT and PHP5

2005-06-18 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
We can provide a suggested .ini for development purposes if you want, but php.ini-recommended has display_errors off and various other settings that are more geared to a production web server. I see no point in having pedantic warnings running on a production server. -Rasmus Jani Taskinen wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] In regards to E_STRICT and PHP5

2005-06-18 Thread Jani Taskinen
An ini file we might provide does not set the defaults. Try running stuff without any php.ini file.. The error_reporting in a recommended (PHP 5.1!!!) ini file should be at the "pedantic" level.. --Jani On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Daniel Convissor wrote: Hi Zeev: On Sat, Jun 1

Re: [PHP-DEV] In regards to E_STRICT and PHP5

2005-06-18 Thread Jani Taskinen
Perhaps you should have noticed that the errors in php.ini-recommended are logged so whatever the error level is shouldn't matter. And I don't think this file is read-only everywhere? :) --Jani On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Andi Gutmans wrote: Thanks for spotting that. Not sure how it

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.4 Breaks Backwards Compatibility

2005-06-18 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Andi Gutmans wrote: > http://phplens.com/phpeverywhere/?q=node/view/205 > > We slightly broke BC for PHP 5 in order to get the reference stuff resolved. > Now I remember (senile me) one of the reasons we didn't apply this fix to PHP > 4. Hmm, this never worked...so we're not

[PHP-DEV] PHP 4.4 Breaks Backwards Compatibility

2005-06-18 Thread Andi Gutmans
http://phplens.com/phpeverywhere/?q=node/view/205 We slightly broke BC for PHP 5 in order to get the reference stuff resolved. Now I remember (senile me) one of the reasons we didn't apply this fix to PHP 4. I suggest to hold the PHP 4.4 release until we see if/what can be done regarding the B

Re: [PHP-DEV] In regards to E_STRICT and PHP5

2005-06-18 Thread Andi Gutmans
Thanks for spotting that. Not sure how it got in there. I removed E_STRICT from the default error_reporting in php.ini-recommended. At 01:24 PM 6/18/2005 +0100, Nicholas Telford wrote: Hello everyone, It seems that E_STRICT is on by default in php.ini-recommended as of 5.1 I think the real is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Summer of Code

2005-06-18 Thread Andi Gutmans
They aren't planning on adding new mentoring organizations. I already checked with them... Andi At 09:56 AM 6/18/2005 +0200, Ron Korving wrote: Quote from http://code.google.com We're Expanding the Summer of Code... - 17/Jun/2005 After spot reviewing the applications we've received for the Su

Re: [PHP-DEV] In regards to E_STRICT and PHP5

2005-06-18 Thread Daniel Convissor
Hi Zeev: On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 12:59:31PM +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Where do you see that? As far as I can tell it certainly looks off by > default even in 5.1. http://cvs.php.net/php-src/php.ini-recommended#rev1.173 That change is still in there as version 1.176, which was used for the

Re: [PHP-DEV] In regards to E_STRICT and PHP5

2005-06-18 Thread Nicholas Telford
Hello everyone, It seems that E_STRICT is on by default in php.ini-recommended as of 5.1 I think the real issue here is nothing to do with E_STRICT being too strict, it does what it says, and as Andi has already said, it's there as a means of best practice checking for pedantic developers. T

Re: [PHP-DEV] In regards to E_STRICT and PHP5

2005-06-18 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 14:39 17/06/2005, Daniel Convissor wrote: Hi George: On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 01:53:29AM -0400, George Schlossnagle wrote: > > E_STRICT isn't part of E_ALL and isn't on by default. Just to be clear, E_STRICT is off by default in 5.0 but on by default in 5.1. Where do you see that? As far a

[PHP-DEV] Re: Summer of Code

2005-06-18 Thread Ron Korving
Quote from http://code.google.com We're Expanding the Summer of Code... - 17/Jun/2005 After spot reviewing the applications we've received for the Summer of Code, we were struck with their high quality. As a result, we were able to increase the funds available to support 400 students, double our o