Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Lester Caine wrote: > The Apache2 debate is more interesting. I am just running up a nice new > AMD64, with SUSE9.1 (no 9.2 disk handy), and the first thing I find - > and which does not bother me at all - ONLY Apache2 in the distribution. > I KNOW all the reasons for feet drag

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
;) I wrote the first Apache module version of PHP in 1995 though. -Rasmus On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Christian Schneider wrote: > Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > > actually researching why something is a certain way. There was a time > > when there was no AddHandler directive. Addtype was the way you did >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread George Schlossnagle
On Dec 20, 2004, at 8:44 PM, Gareth Ardron wrote: George Schlossnagle wrote: At some point you'll have to face it: Apache 2 is becoming a popular "platform". It's obviously up to you at what point you'll consider this important enough to spend time on it but a reality check every so often is nev

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Christian Schneider
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: actually researching why something is a certain way. There was a time when there was no AddHandler directive. Addtype was the way you did According to the Apache documentation AddHandler appeared in Apache 1.1. I'm impressed with your memory, it's better than the memory o

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Wez Furlong
OpenSource being what it is (e.g.: "get your finger out"), it seems to me like we will get stable Apache 2 support when someone knowledgeable in the Apache 2 guts sits down and does the work. We don't have any resident Apache 2 experts (e.g.: we've established that 1.3 works fine for us in our bus

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Gareth Ardron
George Schlossnagle wrote: At some point you'll have to face it: Apache 2 is becoming a popular "platform". It's obviously up to you at what point you'll consider this important enough to spend time on it but a reality check every so often is never a bad thing. Not to sound overly American, but

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Olivier Hill
Hello, Christian Schneider wrote: Because more and more people want to run Apache 2 for different reasons? Other modules support! Many new modules are written with the Apache 2 API and I can't use them because I want to keep running Apache 1.3. But I can surely see why some want to switch. At so

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread George Schlossnagle
On Dec 20, 2004, at 8:05 PM, Christian Schneider wrote: Derick Rethans wrote: Why would we (as PHP developers) invest time in something while the current version provides us with all we need? Because more and more people want to run Apache 2 for different reasons? According to your argument PHP w

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Christian Schneider
Derick Rethans wrote: Why would we (as PHP developers) invest time in something while the current version provides us with all we need? Because more and more people want to run Apache 2 for different reasons? According to your argument PHP would only need to support one single OS and Webserver bec

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Dan Kalowsky
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Lester Caine wrote: The Apache2 debate is more interesting. I am just running up a nice new AMD64, with SUSE9.1 (no 9.2 disk handy), and the first thing I find - and which does not bother me at all - ONLY Apache2 in the distribution. I KNOW all the reasons for feet dragging,

[PHP-DEV] [PATCH] php.ini-(recommended|dist) whitespace noise and typo fix

2004-12-20 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi I did a `diff -u php.ini-dist php.ini-recommended` to see which settings differ. I discovered a lot of 'whitespace noise' and some typos in comments. No big deal but I'd be glad if someone could apply the patch attached to this mail. Daniel diff -ur php-4.3.10-dist/php.ini-dist php-4.3.10/ph

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Lester Caine wrote: > Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > > > Like with most of the criticisms along these lines, they don't > > bother actually researching why something is a certain way. There > > was a time when there was no AddHandler directive. Addtype was the > > way you did this.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP / PHP’s anti -Apache2 FUD

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Reinheimer
I would personally consider Rich Bowen an authority on the subject, and as such trust what he is saying as true. paul On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:28:09 -, Nuno Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is the AddType stuff true? > > If yes, I can change the docs to AddHandler.. > > Nuno > > - Or

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP /

2004-12-20 Thread Lester Caine
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Like with most of the criticisms along these lines, they don't bother actually researching why something is a certain way. There was a time when there was no AddHandler directive. Addtype was the way you did this. Since AddType works with every version of Apache I never

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP / PHP’s anti-Apache2 FUD

2004-12-20 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Like with most of the criticisms along these lines, they don't bother actually researching why something is a certain way. There was a time when there was no AddHandler directive. Addtype was the way you did this. Since AddType works with every version of Apache I never saw a reason to chang

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP / PHP’s anti-Apache2 FUD

2004-12-20 Thread Nuno Lopes
Is the AddType stuff true? If yes, I can change the docs to AddHandler.. Nuno - Original Message - From: "Sebastian Bergmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 2:21 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP / PHP’s anti-Apache2 FUD Via PlanetAp

[PHP-DEV] Please Update Your PayPal Account

2004-12-20 Thread update
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Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] use -prefer-non-pic on x86-{freebsd,linux}

2004-12-20 Thread Steph
It came, it went. So are we onto the 'unknown number of months' already? - Steph (writing up overdue weeklies for Zend) - Original Message - From: "Ilia Alshanetsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "George Schlossnagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Derick Rethans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Joe Orton" <

[PHP-DEV] Why we don’t like PHP / PHP’s anti-Apache2 FUD

2004-12-20 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
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Re: [PHP-DEV] ftp_get_resp & ftp_get_conv functions

2004-12-20 Thread Andi Gutmans
Jesse, By the way, I would guess that reallocating memory in the area of a few K would be negligible to sending FTP commands over the network. So in this case I wouldn't worry about it too much and I agree with Wez suggestion to look at smart_str API. Andi At 04:51 PM 12/16/2004 -0500, Wez Furl

[PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Bug Summary Report

2004-12-20 Thread internals
PHP 5 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net Num Status Summary (490 total including feature requests) ===[*Compile Issues]== 28103 Open During ./configure you get png error instead of iodbc 28700 Open yaz recode conflic