[PHP-DEV] SOAP?

2003-06-25 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
With all this new fancy XML support in PHP 5 -- what about SOAP? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To un

Re: [PHP-DEV] aggregation?

2003-06-25 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 06:38 AM 6/26/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Wei He wrote: > How could I live without aggregation or multiple inheritance? Java developers are very happy without these concepts. Why? Because they have interfaces. Guess what? We have them, too. Well put :) Andi -- PHP Internals - PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] aggregation?

2003-06-25 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Sterling Hughes wrote: > Am I right in assuming that aggregation is going to be removed in PHP5? Does it work with ZE2? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- PH

Re: [PHP-DEV] aggregation?

2003-06-25 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Wei He wrote: > How could I live without aggregation or multiple inheritance? Java developers are very happy without these concepts. Why? Because they have interfaces. Guess what? We have them, too. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: kriek

2003-06-25 Thread Jon Kriek
Maintaining documentation. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] CVS and PECL

2003-06-25 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
How to handle integrating PECL extensions in our development and release process is a somewhat tricky problem. We first have to recognize two basic characteristics of pecl extensions: A. Development/release schedule is independent of php-src schedule B. Some extensions will have specific change

Re: [PHP-DEV] session and objects + serializer seem to be broken

2003-06-25 Thread Olivier Hill
Sterling Hughes wrote: At least with php5. Take a look at ext/session/tests/003.phpt for an example of such breakage. Is it when registering globals? Because this works on my side: Index: 003.phpt === RCS file: /repository/php-src/e

Re: [PHP-DEV] aggregation?

2003-06-25 Thread Wei He
On 25 Jun 2003, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Hey, > > Am I right in assuming that aggregation is going to be removed in PHP5? How could I live without aggregation or multiple inheritance? I have a choice, I prefer the latter. But not a 100% MI as I know there are a lot of debates on 100% MI. What

[PHP-DEV] aggregation?

2003-06-25 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hey, Am I right in assuming that aggregation is going to be removed in PHP5? -Sterling -- "Reductionists like to take things apart. The rest of us are just trying to get it together." - Larry Wall, Programming Perl, 3rd Edition -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To

Re: [PHP-DEV] session and objects + serializer seem to be broken

2003-06-25 Thread Sterling Hughes
Also, if someone has time, 013.phpt segfaults. -Sterling On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 21:21, Sterling Hughes wrote: > At least with php5. Take a look at ext/session/tests/003.phpt for an example > of such breakage. > > -Sterling > -- > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, > then they

[PHP-DEV] session and objects + serializer seem to be broken

2003-06-25 Thread Sterling Hughes
At least with php5. Take a look at ext/session/003.phpt for an example of such breakage. -Sterling -- "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www

[PHP-DEV] Bye bye..

2003-06-25 Thread Jani Taskinen
..I'm outta here for vacation. --Jani p.s. I won't be RMing 4.3.3 release, someone else can take over that. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src /ext/dom config.m4

2003-06-25 Thread Jani Taskinen
I don't before they actually work.. (configure / compile) --Jani On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Andi Gutmans wrote: >I agree. > >At 09:09 PM 6/25/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: >>Andi Gutmans wrote: >> > So is DOM enabled by default? >> >> I don't know whether or not it is,

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: bagder

2003-06-25 Thread Daniel Stenberg
I'm the curl and libcurl maintainer. I'm applying for CVS access for the purpose of the upcoming curl repository maintainance and stuff. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] Use HAVE_SIMPLEXML

2003-06-25 Thread Sterling Hughes
go for it. -sterling On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 17:14, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > The following patch adds the use of HAVE_SIMPLEXML. Any objections? > > cvs server: Diffing . > Index: simplexml.c > === > RCS file: /repository/php-src

[PHP-DEV] Integrating SPL

2003-06-25 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hey, I'd like to talk about merging SPL into the engine, or at least taking some of the core components of SPL and adapting them to the engine, so that the same functionality is available per-default in PHP5. SPL provides a standard set of interfaces, specifically: Iterator: Allows you to overr

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src /main config.w32.h internal_functions_win32.c /win32 php4dllts.dsp

2003-06-25 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Apart from a linker error when HAVE_SIMPLEXML=1 is set this works. Odd, the error is gone. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- PHP

[PHP-DEV] [PATCH] Use HAVE_SIMPLEXML

2003-06-25 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
The following patch adds the use of HAVE_SIMPLEXML. Any objections? cvs server: Diffing . Index: simplexml.c === RCS file: /repository/php-src/ext/simplexml/simplexml.c,v retrieving revision 1.41 diff -u -r1.41 simplexml.c --- simpl

Re: [PHP-DEV] Engine selection on Win32

2003-06-25 Thread Sascha Schumann
> But is this really necessary? I fail to see the point of having to > check out both versions of the Zend Engine twice when doing As already pointed out, the following branches should be empty: ZE1: HEAD ZE2: PHP_4, PHP_4_3 > Is there any technical problem, that I don't se

Re: [PHP-DEV] Engine selection on Win32

2003-06-25 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Sascha Schumann wrote: > Here is a patch which automates the engine selection for VC++. Works here, too. But is this really necessary? I fail to see the point of having to check out both versions of the Zend Engine twice when doing cvs co -r HEAD php-src and cvs co -r PHP_4_3 p

[PHP-DEV] Engine selection on Win32

2003-06-25 Thread Sascha Schumann
Here is a patch which automates the engine selection for VC++. http://www.php.net/~sas/win32-engineselect.diff This has been successfully tested with VC++ 6.0. Together with the already committed patch for Unix, this completes the work on making CVS handling version-agnostic

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src /ext/dom config.m4

2003-06-25 Thread Andi Gutmans
I agree. At 09:09 PM 6/25/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Andi Gutmans wrote: > So is DOM enabled by default? I don't know whether or not it is, but I strongly suggest that it, and all other libxml2-based extension, get enabled by default. Otherwise we'll have the same situation as wit

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src /ext/dom config.m4

2003-06-25 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Andi Gutmans wrote: > So is DOM enabled by default? I don't know whether or not it is, but I strongly suggest that it, and all other libxml2-based extension, get enabled by default. Otherwise we'll have the same situation as with PHP 4 that the most powerfull XML extension is not commonly

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: allowee

2003-06-25 Thread Vincent Gevers
Translating the Dutch manual (phpdoc-nl), since i've found pages that don't exist in dutch, but do exist in english and I want to fix that. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] ./configure error

2003-06-25 Thread Andi Gutmans
Any idea why I get the following configure error with the latest tree? It doesn't seem to me as if I should have to give PHP the zlib location during ./configure as the headers are in /usr/include. Did something break? checking for new DOM support... no checking for libxml version... >= 2.4.14 c

Re: [PHP-DEV] Embed PHP as a scripting language of windows application

2003-06-25 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Oscar Rylin wrote: > Something that would be interesting would be to make it possible to use > PHP with the WSH (Windows Scripting Host).. > I'm not sure if it's doable, but it sure would be nice :) > > Python, perl, vbscript, javascript etc. work with the WSH.. It'd be cool

Re: [PHP-DEV] Embed PHP as a scripting language of windows application

2003-06-25 Thread Oscar Rylin
Something that would be interesting would be to make it possible to use PHP with the WSH (Windows Scripting Host).. I'm not sure if it's doable, but it sure would be nice :) Python, perl, vbscript, javascript etc. work with the WSH.. It'd be cool to include PHP in that list :P -- oscar John Lim

Re: [PHP-DEV] Embed PHP as a scripting language of windows application

2003-06-25 Thread Alan Knowles
This gives some clues.. http://devel.akbkhome.com/talks/gtk_to_desktop.html (its focused on a bootstrapper for php-gtk apps, but the embed SAPI stuff is relivant. - and works on win32) Regards Alan George Schlossnagle wrote: I have no win32 experience, but you should look at the embed SAPI. Geo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Double warnings with session_start

2003-06-25 Thread Justin Hannus
Oops! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Justin Hannus wrote: > > > 1 > > 2 > 3 session_start(); > > 4 ?> > > 5 session inizializzata > > > > It appears that line 1. has the "output" that forces the headers sent, in > > this case, just a newline. A

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Double warnings with session_start

2003-06-25 Thread michel
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Justin Hannus wrote: > 1 > 2 3 session_start(); > 4 ?> > 5 session inizializzata > > It appears that line 1. has the "output" that forces the headers sent, in > this case, just a newline. Anything outside the tags are treated as > STDOUT forcing the php module to send the h

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 developers

2003-06-25 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Zeev Suraski wrote: > It means losing history - not an option. Ah, I meant without losing history. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Run

[PHP-DEV] Re: Double warnings with session_start

2003-06-25 Thread Justin Hannus
1 2 5 session inizializzata It appears that line 1. has the "output" that forces the headers sent, in this case, just a newline. Anything outside the tags are treated as STDOUT forcing the php module to send the headers before you start your session. Try moving your 4 session inizializzata "

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 developers

2003-06-25 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 16:54 25/06/2003, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: > We should keep the php5 module, and it should check out ZendEngine2 as > Zend. I take it that - Move HEAD of Zend/ into a PHP_4 tag. - Commit HEAD of ZendEngine2/ to HEAD of Zend/. - Delete ZendEngine2/. is not

Re: [PHP-DEV] Embed PHP as a scripting language of windows application

2003-06-25 Thread George Schlossnagle
I have no win32 experience, but you should look at the embed SAPI. George On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 07:35 AM, John Lim wrote: Hello, I'm writing some windows apps that require a scripting language to control various info. Has anyone had any experience or source code showing how to embe

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 developers

2003-06-25 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Zeev Suraski wrote: > We should keep the php5 module, and it should check out ZendEngine2 as > Zend. I take it that - Move HEAD of Zend/ into a PHP_4 tag. - Commit HEAD of ZendEngine2/ to HEAD of Zend/. - Delete ZendEngine2/. is not possible / feasible? -- Sebastian Bergman

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 developers

2003-06-25 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 16:41 25/06/2003, Edin Kadribasic wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > I think we should go back to > > having always Zend directory which makes life for people compiling > > PHP on Windows easier. > > That would be a literal step backwards. Streamlining CVS > handlin

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 developers

2003-06-25 Thread Edin Kadribasic
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > I think we should go back to > > having always Zend directory which makes life for people compiling > > PHP on Windows easier. > > That would be a literal step backwards. Streamlining CVS > handling is something which the project had a long

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 developers

2003-06-25 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Edin Kadribasic wrote: > Its not that simple. There is a need to specify Zend dir in the > include path in all ext/*.dsp files. Ok, then you probably should do something similar to the buildconf trick, i.e. rename the directories according to the currently active

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 developers

2003-06-25 Thread Edin Kadribasic
Its not that simple. There is a need to specify Zend dir in the include path in all ext/*.dsp files. I think we should go back to having always Zend directory which makes life for people compiling PHP on Windows easier. Edin - Original Message - From: "Sascha Schumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PHP-DEV] Win32 developers

2003-06-25 Thread Sascha Schumann
Win32 folks, the ze2 is now always checked out into a ZendEngine2 directory. It appears to me that this one line diff might be sufficient already: --- php5ts.dsw 23 Jun 2003 04:27:11 - 1.18 +++ php5ts.dsw 25 Jun 2003 13:07:36 - @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ ##

[PHP-DEV] Embed PHP as a scripting language of windows application

2003-06-25 Thread John Lim
Hello, I'm writing some windows apps that require a scripting language to control various info. Has anyone had any experience or source code showing how to embed PHP as a scripting language for a windows app? I'm sure there's some neat way to link to php4ts.dll and pass a script to it. Thanks aga

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-25 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Gareth Ardron wrote: Walk through menu of "do you want X enabled? do you want Y enabled?" which just stores as a string and excecutes `./configure {string value}` do you remember the linux kernel times *before* we had menuconfig

[PHP-DEV] enable/disable/bundle mysql/pgsql/sqlite by default (was: enabling postgresql by default)

2003-06-25 Thread Thomas Lamy
Tim Parkin wrote: > > [...] I agree that SQLite is a good idea, however I also > see the need for standard, > bundled db client code, after all the MySQL inclusion has had an > enormous impact on hosting > and hence the direction of mine and many other PHP oriented > industries. > The real que

RE: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Tim Parkin
Zeev and Derick said > Lots of sane comments Thanks very much for the quick replies... I think the way forward for most people will be to accept that cheap shared hosting environments are only suitable for basic web solutions. Virtual hosting is 'very' cheap now and if someone wants a (more compl

RE: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:56 25/06/2003, Tim Parkin wrote: >At 00:20 25/06/2003, Marcus Börger wrote: >>That discussion is mostly non public and will not become public until we can >>find a consensus/solution togeter with MySQL on LinuxTag during july. > >That implies that this discussion exists; It doesn't; We're n

RE: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Tim Parkin wrote: > 1) Will MySQL be included again - I presume this will probably be so, > dependant on MySQL AB. No, we will not re-bundle the client libraries anymore. (Even if they have a good exception we can not bundle GPL'ed libraries). > 2) Will any consideration of

RE: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Tim Parkin
>At 00:20 25/06/2003, Marcus Börger wrote: >>That discussion is mostly non public and will not become public until we can >>find a consensus/solution togeter with MySQL on LinuxTag during july. > >That implies that this discussion exists; It doesn't; We're not >discussing the addition of Postgre

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:20 25/06/2003, Marcus Börger wrote: TP> Zeev, TP> Could you please point me to the recent discussion that takes into TP> account the progress of Postgres and the change in licensing of MySQL That discussion is mostly non public and will not become public until we can find a consensus/solutio

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-25 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 02:45 25/06/2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Edin Kadribasic wrote: > > At 04:32 PM 6/24/2003 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > > SQLite should become as pervasive as the session extension. > > > It is really a killer feature. > > > > I think this was well put. It seems t

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Proposal] New error type E_DEPRECATED

2003-06-25 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello Davey, Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 4:52:18 AM, you wrote: D> Hey, D> I was thinking that perhaps implementing a new error type, E_DEPRECATED D> might be a good idea for helping to advocate the deprecation of D> functions and such. D> It would simply work in that it shows a "notice" type m