Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Chris wrote: > Since there's been a lot of talk about disabling mysql by default (and > having another option available), the PostgreSQL people are pretty excited > about this and are keen to see what can be done about getting postgres > enabled by default instead. > > Wha

RE: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-23 Thread James Cox
> > Since there's been a lot of talk about disabling mysql by > default (and > having another option available), the PostgreSQL people are > pretty excited > about this and are keen to see what can be done about getting > postgres > enabled by default instead. > I certainly don't speak fo

[PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-23 Thread Chris
All, Since there's been a lot of talk about disabling mysql by default (and having another option available), the PostgreSQL people are pretty excited about this and are keen to see what can be done about getting postgres enabled by default instead. What do people think about this? How can we

RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP_4_3 doesn't build on Windows

2003-06-23 Thread James Cox
And so on. Once you guys realize how that php4 can't be in the same tree as php5, then you will begin to realize what it was that I was trying to do. > -Original Message- > From: admin [mailto:admin] On Behalf Of Sebastian Bergmann > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:20 AM > To: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [PHP-DEV] Automated selection of engine

2003-06-23 Thread Markus Fischer
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:28:40AM +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote : > However, I am not convinced that having to explicitly checkout the PHP_5 > branch is such a good idea. I thought the idea was to have HEAD be the > current development version and branch if off when necessary. I would > prefer thi

[PHP-DEV] PHP_4_3 doesn't build on Windows

2003-06-23 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
... because ext/com is missing. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Sascha Schumann wrote: > The great unification has commenced. Thanks for your effort! -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Developm

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Rob Richards wrote: > Also, it looks like at least domxml and xslt were dropped from the > php_4 branches. There is, however, ext/sqlite in PHP_4_3 :) -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwaree

Re: [PHP-DEV] Automated selection of engine

2003-06-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 05:25 AM 6/24/2003 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote: So, we should get comfortable with the idea of having a Zend _and_ a ZendEngine2 dir at the same time(*). Thoughts? I think in the long run it tends to be a bit ugly, but I don't see any alternative right now, because merging the CVS

[PHP-DEV] Automated selection of engine

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
Right now, CVS users have to know which engine they need for a particular PHP version. The reason for this? The php4/php5 CVS aliases have been removed, because they conveyed a false impression -- php4 just wouldn't give you PHP 4, if you did not also specify the correct branc

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Ilia A.
On June 23, 2003 05:37 pm, Sascha Schumann wrote: A clean checkout using "cvs co -r PHP_4_3 php-src-ze1" does not appear to fetch the TSRM directory. Ilia -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] Test please ignore

2003-06-23 Thread Jason Greene
Test please ignore -- Jason Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He who laughs last hasn't been told the terrible truth. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Edin Kadribasic
"Sascha Schumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I haven't run into these.. details would certainly simplify > that decision. I found that it was not possible to get a diff between two dates with two -D options in a branch which works fine in HEAD. Edin

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Rob Richards
Just a couple of things about the current state of the repository. A bunch of files in TSRM for PHP_5 need to be reverted to the previous revision to get them back working with php5. The ones which were synched with the php4 branch are now missing all the changes/fixes made to them over the past x

[PHP-DEV] Action Log

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
For public scrutiny, here is the action log for today's CVS modifications. 0. CVS access disabled. 1. /repository/php5 became php-src. 2. /repository/php4 became php4.unused. 3. Locally checked out HEAD module php-src. Created branch PHP_5 from that using "cvs tag -b PHP_5". Repeate

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
> I think that PHP 5 (or whatever the latest major version of PHP in the > works is at a given moment) should be in HEAD, and not in a branch. CVS > branches are really useful for maintaining old versions, but I think HEAD > is the most suitable branch for ongoing development(*), and we're not > r

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
> Is it possible to perhaps make PHP_5 synonymous with HEAD while this is > the main dev branch? Perhaps through an alias? The move the alias when > the main dev branch becomes something else? It does seem a bit weird to > not have main development on HEAD. The lack of consistency regarding

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:37 24/06/2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: The great unification has commenced. There is now a single module php-src which contains all PHP 4 and PHP 5 branches. BRANCH INFORMATION Please make yourself familiar with the "cvs checkout -r BRANCH" notation. It will be necessary

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
> PHP 5: cvs co -r PHP_5 php-src-ze2 Is it possible to perhaps make PHP_5 synonymous with HEAD while this is the main dev branch? Perhaps through an alias? The move the alias when the main dev branch becomes something else? It does seem a bit weird to not have main development on HEA

[PHP-DEV] Array indexing BC question

2003-06-23 Thread Lars Torben Wilson
Hi out there, Wondering what should go into the docs about this: It seems that array appending has changed wrt negative indices. I had just documented the new behaviour but now I'm not entirely sure whether I've just documented an unintentional change. Is this new behaviour what is desired (i.e.

Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Adam Dickmeiss
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:37:56PM +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote: > The great unification has commenced. > > There is now a single module php-src which contains all PHP 4 > and PHP 5 branches. > > BRANCH INFORMATION > > Please make yourself familiar with the "cvs checkout -r >

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
James Cox wrote: There is a cumulative patch available here: http://cvs.php.net/~imajes/big.patch.gz which incorporates all the changes from PHP_4_3 to HEAD, which I merged. Simply by reversing the patch and applying it backwards to your code should be sufficient to remove the changes occurred when

[PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: CVS changes

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
The great unification has commenced. There is now a single module php-src which contains all PHP 4 and PHP 5 branches. BRANCH INFORMATION Please make yourself familiar with the "cvs checkout -r BRANCH" notation. It will be necessary from now on for a checkout. Some

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
> Just to clarify. The proposal is: Right. Nice diagram :) > If so, I am all for it. A version-agnostic php-src module with > appropriate branches and tags would be very nice. This tree looks more > complicated than it actually is. Obviously a number of the branches are > inactive and do

Re: [PHP-DEV] implicit_clone

2003-06-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 19:49 23/06/2003, Derick Rethans wrote: I think I rather have people bitching about that than bitch about the wrongly set setting. The latter creates bugreports, the first only stupid questions. I don't consider people bumping into problems upgrading asking questions as being stupid... Most pe

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: > Here is a plan. > > - rename /repository/php5 to /repository/php-src > - copy PHP_4_3 tags to PHP_4 branch (i.e. reset the PHP 4 > head branch to the current 4.3 code) > - workaround Zend/ZendEngine2 issue (they should be in the >

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 08:04 PM 6/23/2003 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote: > A bunch of things are broken. Files are missing in php4 head and the > wrong versions of files are also in there. I think we need to roll this > change back as soon as possible and take another shot at this in a much > more organized manner.

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > I agree with the single module for evolutionary code approach. > > Should we disable CVS for a while to stop commits until this gets cleaned > up? I think this problem needs the special Sascha touch. sounds like a good plan to me Derick -- "Interp

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > A bunch of things are broken. Files are missing in php4 head and the > > wrong versions of files are also in there. I think we need to roll this > > change back as soon as possible and take another shot at this in a much > > more organized manner. >

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Uwe Schindler
Sounds good. If you have time do it in that way. +1 At 20:04 23.06.2003 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote: > A bunch of things are broken. Files are missing in php4 head and the > wrong versions of files are also in there. I think we need to roll this > change back as soon as possible and take another

Re[4]: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello George, Monday, June 23, 2003, 8:11:35 PM, you wrote: GS> On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 02:04 PM, Marcus BXrger wrote: >> 1) SPL doesn't work when not being a built-in extension. GS> Works fine for me. I tested all the interfaces except for GS> spl_array_write_ex. You could simply run

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 14:04, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > A bunch of things are broken. Files are missing in php4 head and the > > wrong versions of files are also in there. I think we need to roll this > > change back as soon as possible and take another shot at this in a much > > more organized m

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 08:33 PM 6/23/2003 +0200, Marcus Börger wrote: Hello Andi, Monday, June 23, 2003, 8:14:30 PM, you wrote: AG> At 09:14 AM 6/23/2003 +0100, Wez Furlong wrote: >>[This is not a dig!] >> >>The same could be said about the engine code itself ;) AG> :) AG> We do need some sort of email which explai

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello Stanislav, Monday, June 23, 2003, 9:34:41 AM, you wrote: SB>>> > Anybody cares to explain what SPL is? SB>>> SB>>> http://cvs.php.net/cvs.php/spl >>From the initial look at the code, it seems it contains a large parts of SM> duplicated engine code. Which means, unless I am missing some

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello Andi, Monday, June 23, 2003, 8:14:30 PM, you wrote: AG> At 09:14 AM 6/23/2003 +0100, Wez Furlong wrote: >>[This is not a dig!] >> >>The same could be said about the engine code itself ;) AG> :) AG> We do need some sort of email which explains the API and the semantics. For AG> instance,

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread George Schlossnagle
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 02:04 PM, Marcus BXrger wrote: 1) SPL doesn't work when not being a built-in extension. Works fine for me. I tested all the interfaces except for spl_array_write_ex. gs -- George Schlossnagle -- Principal Consultant -- OmniTI Computer Consulting, Inc. -- +1.410.87

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
> A bunch of things are broken. Files are missing in php4 head and the > wrong versions of files are also in there. I think we need to roll this > change back as soon as possible and take another shot at this in a much > more organized manner. Here is a plan. - rename /repository/php5 t

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello Sebastian, Monday, June 23, 2003, 8:50:17 AM, you wrote: SB> Sterling Hughes wrote: >> SPL should be integrated into the engine imho. I think its incredibly >> useful from a purely internals perspective. SB> Either way I think the functionality should be part of PHP 5 and SB> enabled

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello Sterling, Monday, June 23, 2003, 4:38:42 AM, you wrote: SH> Hey, SH> Unless anyone objects I'm going to enable the sqlite extension by SH> default for PHP5. The extension comes with the bundled sqlite library SH> which is 1.5mb in total (cd ext/sqlite/libsqlite/src/; du -ch *.c *.h), SH>

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Jon Parise
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 10:32:56AM -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > A bunch of things are broken. Files are missing in php4 head and the > wrong versions of files are also in there. I think we need to roll this > change back as soon as possible and take another shot at this in a much > more organi

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Dan Kalowsky
-1 As always I'm against any enable by default thinking. Why, oh why, are we making this wonderful configure script completely useless? On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Hey, > > Unless anyone objects I'm going to enable the sqlite extension by > default for PHP5. The extension c

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread James Cox
> > At 10:32 AM 6/23/2003 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >A bunch of things are broken. Files are missing in php4 > head and the > >wrong versions of files are also in there. I think we need to roll > >this change back as soon as possible and take another shot > at this in a > >much more or

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Uwe Schindler
At 10:32 23.06.2003 -0700, you wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Andi Gutmans wrote: > At 05:43 PM 6/23/2003 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > Can someone explain why James just made it impossible to > > properly work with source code which resides in PHP 4 and 5? > > > > - diffing is imposs

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 10:32 AM 6/23/2003 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: A bunch of things are broken. Files are missing in php4 head and the wrong versions of files are also in there. I think we need to roll this change back as soon as possible and take another shot at this in a much more organized manner. Maybe it's

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, James Cox wrote: > > I am not quite sure how/what broke. However, no matter if > > what James did was the right or wrong thing to do, I think it should > have > > been discussed first (in detail). > > > > The opportunity was made available, many times. Lack of feedback does

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread James Cox
> > I am not quite sure how/what broke. However, no matter if > what James did was the right or wrong thing to do, I think it should have > been discussed first (in detail). > The opportunity was made available, many times. -- james -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing Li

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Andi Gutmans wrote: > At 05:43 PM 6/23/2003 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > Can someone explain why James just made it impossible to > > properly work with source code which resides in PHP 4 and 5? > > > > - diffing is impossible > > - merging is impossible >

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 07:14 PM 6/23/2003 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Andi Gutmans wrote: > spl_foreach is ugly as hell. What about ForeachIterator? And "Iterator"? :) Anyway, forget discussing names now. It'd be nice to see a short spec of what SPL does so that we can discuss it. Andi -- PHP Internals - PHP

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 05:43 PM 6/23/2003 +0200, Sascha Schumann wrote: Can someone explain why James just made it impossible to properly work with source code which resides in PHP 4 and 5? - diffing is impossible - merging is impossible - history of new commits becomes fragmented James, why di

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Andi Gutmans wrote: > spl_foreach is ugly as hell. What about ForeachIterator? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mai

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 09:14 AM 6/23/2003 +0100, Wez Furlong wrote: [This is not a dig!] The same could be said about the engine code itself ;) :) We do need some sort of email which explains the API and the semantics. For instance, I'm pretty sure I won't like the names of the interfaces :) spl_foreach is ugly as

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
James, in the past, there was very little interest in a PHP 4 HEAD branch, if you care to recall. Because your rashness has rendered diff and merge unusable between PHP 4/5, we can only expect to see even less interest. Lowering the bar should be the answer to faiding interest

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
nope, just in cvs. and just as of last night. :) But the footprint of php5 is actually smaller with regards to sqlite, as the client library caused more download time. -Sterling On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 13:58, Andi Gutmans wrote: > At 01:12 AM 6/23/2003 -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: > >1.5 mb is t

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 01:12 AM 6/23/2003 -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: 1.5 mb is tiny :) 1.5 mb is just a du -ch *.c *.h, and its a one time download. Then you cvs upd the rest of the changes as they happen. As a point of reference, the mbstring extension is 2.9 mb of data, sqlite is in total 1.9 mb of data. Libm

Re: [PHP-DEV] implicit_clone

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Zeev Suraski wrote: > At 18:39 23/06/2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > Maybe we can go for a compromise - enable it with ZEND_INI_PERDIR and > > > ZEND_INI_UUSE. That way it will be possible to use it with httpd.conf / > > > .htacce

Re: [PHP-DEV] What versions of GNU buildtools are required to buildPHP from CVS?

2003-06-23 Thread Jani Taskinen
Use snapshots: http://snaps.php.net/ Do not run "buildconf" unless you're 100% sure what you're doing.. --Jani On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Antony Dovgal wrote: >On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:09:50 +0200 (CEST) >Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> that should be -

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread James Cox
> > There is one fix for all of this, the most appropriate fix, > which is to properly revert a file to revisions previous to > the first php5 development, and then bring HEAD into sync > with the branch [1]. > The reference here was http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/admin/cvs/cvsrevert.html ... S

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread James Cox
> > The problem is that I now have conflicts in my changes > because CVS was doing its job and merging changes into my > local code. In addition, some of my changes have been > clevery merged with 4.3 specific changes. So, I have to go > and audit my code by hand and check which of the change

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread James Cox
> Can someone explain why James just made it impossible to > properly work with source code which resides in PHP 4 and 5? > > - diffing is impossible > - merging is impossible > - history of new commits becomes fragmented > > James, why did not you discuss this first? All

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Allowee wrote: > can't somebody just put the yesterday backup of the repository in there? > check the list to patch the files which where not backed up. > > all comments are welcome, just don't tell me that there is NO backup. I made a backup, cause I was expecting this. Thi

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 03:34, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > SB>> > Anybody cares to explain what SPL is? > SB>> > SB>> http://cvs.php.net/cvs.php/spl > > >From the initial look at the code, it seems it contains a large parts of > duplicated engine code. Which means, unless I am missing something,

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Allowee
On Monday 23 June 2003 17:43, Sascha Schumann wrote: > Can someone explain why James just made it impossible to > properly work with source code which resides in PHP 4 and 5? > > - diffing is impossible > - merging is impossible > - history of new commits becomes fragmented > >

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Wez Furlong
Err, no. *Hacking the repository is not using revision control properly*. The problem is that I now have conflicts in my changes because CVS was doing its job and merging changes into my local code. In addition, some of my changes have been clevery merged with 4.3 specific changes. So, I have to

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Edin Kadribasic
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: [snip] > James, why did not you discuss this first? All opensource BSDs > have been using _one_ source module since their inception. > In the case of FreeBSD, that dates back to 1993, so this is > clearly a proven model. > > What do

Re: [PHP-DEV] implicit_clone

2003-06-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 11:59, Zeev Suraski wrote: > At 18:39 23/06/2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > Maybe we can go for a compromise - enable it with ZEND_INI_PERDIR and > > > ZEND_INI_UUSE. That way it will be possible to use it with httpd.conf / > > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Build problem

2003-06-23 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Wez Furlong wrote: > (thought Zeev had checked it in already) Another commit reverted by you-know-who? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- PHP Internals - PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] implicit_clone

2003-06-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 18:39 23/06/2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Maybe we can go for a compromise - enable it with ZEND_INI_PERDIR and > ZEND_INI_UUSE. That way it will be possible to use it with httpd.conf / > .htaccess / ini_set(), but not with php.ini, so people will at lea

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 03:55, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:38:42PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > Hey, > > > > Unless anyone objects I'm going to enable the sqlite extension by > > i object strongly. sterling, why have you gotten into the > enable-all, bundle-all

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
Can someone explain why James just made it impossible to properly work with source code which resides in PHP 4 and 5? - diffing is impossible - merging is impossible - history of new commits becomes fragmented James, why did not you discuss this first? All opensource BSDs

Re: [PHP-DEV] implicit_clone

2003-06-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Maybe we can go for a compromise - enable it with ZEND_INI_PERDIR and > ZEND_INI_UUSE. That way it will be possible to use it with httpd.conf / > .htaccess / ini_set(), but not with php.ini, so people will at least have > to make a slightly more informed

Re: [PHP-DEV] implicit_clone

2003-06-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 20:59 22/06/2003, Sterling Hughes wrote: hi, currently, soley for backwards compatibility purposes we provide the ze2.implicit_clone option. this option is globally settable, and may be used by shared hosting providers to make it more likely that old scripts can run unmodified. this however m

Re: [PHP-DEV] Build problem

2003-06-23 Thread Wez Furlong
Hi Stas, It's a one line fix to configure; I'll do that shortly (thought Zeev had checked it in already). --Wez. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > When building PHP5 from fresh checkout, if I build in the separate > directory, I get the following error: > > Assembler messages: >

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Uwe Schindler
After all discussions what should we do with our 2 checkouts (PHP5-HEAD and PHP 4.3.3RC2). I have checked out php5 and used HEAD. -> Looks good On my harddisk is also a checkout of php4 with tag PHP4_3 (this seems to be the same with the STABLE snapshot) Today I checked also out php4 HEAD and ha

Re: [PHP-DEV] Win32 Build broken

2003-06-23 Thread Rob Richards
Problem is from TSRM when HEAD was synch'd with the php4 branch. Anything that was done in HEAD is gone in latest revision. Until this is sorted out, grabbing the previous revision for the changed files seems to work. Rob From: Sebastian Bergmann >php5\ext\standard\filestat.c(582): warning

Re: [PHP-DEV] GPL/MySQL and OSI

2003-06-23 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: > Hi, > > What would it take to make PHP OSI Compliant (Certified?)? That's on the way already. > It seems it > would permit PHP to be linked to MySQL libs, or am I wrong? You are not right (yet). - Sascha -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime De

[PHP-DEV] GPL/MySQL and OSI

2003-06-23 Thread Olivier Hill
Hi, What would it take to make PHP OSI Compliant (Certified?)? It seems it would permit PHP to be linked to MySQL libs, or am I wrong? Do we have to hire a bunch of lawyers or is it a simple procedure that no one want to do? Oliver -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To un

[PHP-DEV] Build problem

2003-06-23 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
When building PHP5 from fresh checkout, if I build in the separate directory, I get the following error: Assembler messages: FATAL: Can't create main/streams/streams.o: No such file or directory make: *** [main/streams/streams.lo] Error 1 As soon as I create main/streams/ manually, everything is

Re: [PHP-DEV] call_user_function/wddx_serialize_vars Question

2003-06-23 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Jeraimee Hughes wrote: > zval *params; > zval *function_name; > zval *params_wddx = NULL; > zval *params_array; [snipped] > add_index_zval(params_array, 0, params); > > if (FAILURE == call_user_function(CG(function_table), NULL, function_n

RE: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread James Cox
> > The point is that there are now a number of core developers > who updated their existing php5 checkouts and now have a load > of crap from 4.3 merged into their php5 development. > For what it's worth, the last 5 or so warning emails I have dropped onto the list making it very clear what th

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
I think it's a good idea. Zeev At 05:38 23/06/2003, Sterling Hughes wrote: Hey, Unless anyone objects I'm going to enable the sqlite extension by default for PHP5. The extension comes with the bundled sqlite library which is 1.5mb in total (cd ext/sqlite/libsqlite/src/; du -ch *.c *.h), and is

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Wez Furlong
The point is that there are now a number of core developers who updated their existing php5 checkouts and now have a load of crap from 4.3 merged into their php5 development. Yes, its a nice idea to make php4 HEAD work for php4 again, but after a grace period to allow people to migrate to the "rea

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 11:35, Derick Rethans wrote: > Sure, and delete my work from my current checkout right away then? You > obviously have no clue. I didn't say that, Derick. You can still get a CVS diff that you can apply to the php5 tree and keep working. > > Breakage is neccessary sometime

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Per Lundberg wrote: > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 11:04, Derick Rethans wrote: > > Great, thanks for this nice mess, we now ended up with useles PHP 4.3 > > checkouts with PHP 5 development stuff in it. > > Yeah, what's the big deal about that? Just get the php5 module from > CVS

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4(PHP_4_3) /ext/snmp php_snmp.hsnmp.c

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Johann Hanne wrote: > > The point is that with valueretrieval set to 0, the SNMP value is still > > retrieved with snprint_value()/sprint_value(). I've been really really > > careful with this... > > > > Of course the statement "The

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 11:04, Derick Rethans wrote: > Great, thanks for this nice mess, we now ended up with useles PHP 4.3 > checkouts with PHP 5 development stuff in it. Yeah, what's the big deal about that? Just get the php5 module from CVS... Breakage is neccessary sometimes. James: thanks

Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS Administriva (important)

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, James Cox wrote: > The next stage to happen is that I will bring php4 HEAD into sync with > the 4.x development branch, so expect a big patch. ARGH! Didn't I ask you NOT to do this... you just created a lot of trouble for people working with a php5 checkout (co php5)... it n

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:38, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Unless anyone objects I'm going to enable the sqlite extension by > default for PHP5. The extension comes with the bundled sqlite library > which is 1.5mb in total (cd ext/sqlite/libsqlite/src/; du -ch *.c *.h), > and is a good alternative to u

Re: [PHP-DEV] removing bundled libmysql

2003-06-23 Thread Per Lundberg
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 22:17, Georg Richter wrote: > Zak is already working on license problems, incompatibility and possible > solutions. Wouldn't it be better to give him and MySQL AB a little bit more > time? That would be a good thing. What I think should be clearly stated is that it is a *

Re: [PHP-DEV] What versions of GNU buildtools are required to buildPHP from CVS?

2003-06-23 Thread Antony Dovgal
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:09:50 +0200 (CEST) Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that should be --prefix=/usr (note the / ) Sorry, this was a typo - I've really used "--prefix=/usr" instead of "--prefix=usr". So, all binaries are in /usr at this moment. But I don't think this matters, 'cause

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
WF>> The same could be said about the engine code itself ;) I see your point, but the rest of the engine does not need to be integrated with itself, it already is. Also, the parts of the engine that are exposed to the user are or will be (I hope) documented pretty well, just as user-exposed part

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 22 Jun 2003, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Unless anyone objects I'm going to enable the sqlite extension by > default for PHP5. The extension comes with the bundled sqlite library > which is 1.5mb in total (cd ext/sqlite/libsqlite/src/; du -ch *.c *.h), > and is a good alternative to using My

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Wez Furlong
[This is not a dig!] The same could be said about the engine code itself ;) --Wez. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Ah. Well, then a brief intro into how it is meant to work and what it is > meant to do would help a lot. I value very much the ability of all authors > to write se

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Wez Furlong
When I bundled the library, I only included the required files (the official distro is a bit larger than what we include in ext/sqlite). --Wez. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Andi Gutmans wrote: > On one hand I think having 1.5MB in our release tree is quite a lot (can > anything be removed)? On the other

Re: [PHP-DEV] What versions of GNU buildtools are required to buildPHP from CVS?

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Antony Dovgal wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:17:08 +0200 (CEST) > Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sounds like something definitely broken on your system then... > may be =( > I did just `./configure --prefix=usr; make; make install` in autoconf, automake &

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
SB>> > Can't it be done without keeping another copy of entire Zend engine? SB>> SB>> As Sterling already mentioned, it should be merged into Zend at some SB>> point in time, preferably before PHP 5 :) Ah. Well, then a brief intro into how it is meant to work and what it is meant to do would

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default

2003-06-23 Thread Thies C. Arntzen
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:38:42PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Hey, > > Unless anyone objects I'm going to enable the sqlite extension by i object strongly. sterling, why have you gotten into the enable-all, bundle-all mode lately? what do you gain? thies -- PHP Internals - PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Can't it be done without keeping another copy of entire Zend engine? As Sterling already mentioned, it should be merged into Zend at some point in time, preferably before PHP 5 :) -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOp

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
SB>> > Anybody cares to explain what SPL is? SB>> SB>> http://cvs.php.net/cvs.php/spl >From the initial look at the code, it seems it contains a large parts of duplicated engine code. Which means, unless I am missing something, constant maintenance nightmare. Can't it be done without keeping

Re: [PHP-DEV] ADT, SPL

2003-06-23 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Anybody cares to explain what SPL is? http://cvs.php.net/cvs.php/spl -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ http://www.professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runti

Re: [PHP-DEV] What versions of GNU buildtools are required to buildPHP from CVS?

2003-06-23 Thread Antony Dovgal
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:17:08 +0200 (CEST) Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like something definitely broken on your system then... may be =( I did just `./configure --prefix=usr; make; make install` in autoconf, automake & libtool sources. >or are you using third party extens

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