[Int-area] Introducing IPv4 Unicast Extensions with new draft-schoen-intarea-lowest-address

2021-08-01 Thread Seth David Schoen
Hi, John Gilmore, Dave Taht and I have proposed a recent Internet-Draft that relates to the Internet Area. We hope you'll read it and discuss it: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoen-intarea-lowest-address/ With ever-increasing pressure to conserve IP address space on the Interne

Re: [Int-area] Introducing IPv4 Unicast Extensions with new draft-schoen-intarea-lowest-address

2021-08-02 Thread Seth David Schoen
Hi Derek, thanks for your comments. Derek Fawcus writes: > I'd suggest you'd have a hard job making local links safe for on-link > use of the all-0-host address, if only because of the number of routers > deployed (e.g. Cisco boxes, but probably others as wlll) which have that > knowledge hard co

Re: [Int-area] Introducing IPv4 Unicast Extensions with new draft-schoen-intarea-lowest-address

2021-08-02 Thread Seth David Schoen
Bob Hinden writes: > Seth, > > Do I understand correctly, that you are proposing that all hosts, routers, > firewalls, middle boxes, etc. on the Internet, be updated in order to get a > single extra IP address per subnet? Plus then having to deal with the > complexities of mixed implementatio

Re: [Int-area] Introducing IPv4 Unicast Extensions with new draft-schoen-intarea-lowest-address

2021-08-13 Thread Seth David Schoen
Carsten Bormann wrote: > Changing routers, even if it is only a config change, costs money and > creates opportunity costs (lost time) We don't propose that everyone change out or reconfigure all their routers. We propose that new routers be shipped with these improvements, so that as equipment

[Int-area] New draft: The IETF Will Continue Maintaining IPv4 (draft-schoen-intarea-ietf-maintaining-ipv4)

2022-03-15 Thread Seth David Schoen
Hi intarea, When we presented our reserved address space drafts at the previous IETF meeting, we noticed that the most common concern was not so much about the substance of our proposals as about the question of whether intarea and the IETF should be working on IPv4 fixes at all. This question ha