Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] Proxy function for PTB messages on the tunnel end

2021-03-23 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021, 07:53 Vasilenko Eduard, wrote: > Hi Joseph, > > > > Currently, vendors have chosen some undisclosed big numbers for the > reassembly buffer on the tunnel interface > > Or no buffer at all for tunnels that do not support reassembly. > > That does not create any additional rest

Re: [Int-area] [spring] FW: New Version Notification for draft-raviolli-intarea-trusted-domain-srv6-00.txt

2023-03-29 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 19:58, Tony Przygienda wrote: > > Though I would like to cheer for Kireeti's 2. as well I think the point of > SHOULD is more realistic (for now) as Joel points out ... > > As to ethertype, I think grown-ups in the room were since long time drily > observing that a new IP

Re: [Int-area] [spring] FW: New Version Notification for draft-raviolli-intarea-trusted-domain-srv6-00.txt

2023-03-29 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 22:46, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > Guys, > > What you are really saying here is that the concept of using network > programmability should be killed and we should get stuck for decades to come > with closed domains only innovation. > > I find it quite disturbing especially as

Re: [Int-area] Review of draft-narten-ipv6-3177bis-48boundary-05

2010-08-21 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Fred, Tony, On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:16:05 -0700 Fred Baker wrote: > Thanks, Tony. > > Let me comment on one point in your review. > > On Aug 20, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Tony Li wrote: > > > To be really honest, I have concluded that every time we further idiot-proof > the world, the world mak

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] IP-capable nodes must support IPv6 - new draft-george-ipv6-required

2011-01-08 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:43:35 -0800 Joe Touch wrote: > > > On 1/7/2011 2:39 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > On 2011-01-08 10:54, Joe Touch wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 1/7/2011 1:51 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > >>> Ok. So just to verify, if a box that is sold today that does NAT44 > >>> out-of-the-

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] End-to-end "address transparency"

2011-01-10 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:30:12 +0100 Rémi Després wrote: > > Le 8 janv. 2011 à 04:28, Fernando Gont a écrit : > > On 07/01/2011 07:42 p.m., Josh Rambo wrote: > >> That seems at odds with the goal of end-to-end transparency on the > >> Internet. > >> If it boots up with NAT66 out of the box, then

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] End-to-end "address transparency"

2011-01-10 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:51:52 -0300 Fernando Gont wrote: > Hi, Remi, > > On 10/01/2011 05:30 a.m., Rémi Després wrote: > > >> End-to-end transparency in the sense that every node will be > >> reachable from every node? > > > > The e2e transparency that IPv4 had lost, and IPv6 restores, is > > A

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] IP-capable nodes must support IPv6 - new draft-george-ipv6-required

2011-01-10 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:52:33 + "George, Wes E [NTK]" wrote: > As a direct result of discussions after Beijing about the hotly-contested > draft regarding IANA allocating a new shared IPv4 address space, the authors > of this draft realized that the root problem is actually the lack of IPv6

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] IP-capable nodes must support IPv6 - new draft-george-ipv6-required

2011-01-10 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:49:51 -0500 "Lee Howard" wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > > > This sounds like a WG chartering debate, rather than a debate about > whether > > > all IP-capable devices SHOULD support IPv6. > > > It sounds like your su

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] IP-capable nodes must support IPv6 - new draft-george-ipv6-required

2011-01-11 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Lee, On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:59:33 -0500 "Howard, Lee" wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Mark Smith [mailto:i...@69706e6720323030352d30312d31340a.nosense.org] > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:15 PM > > I don't think I really agree wit

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] End-to-end "address transparency"

2011-01-16 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:37:07 +0100 Joel Jaeggli wrote: > On 1/10/11 9:50 PM, Fernando Gont wrote: > > On 10/01/2011 05:43 p.m., Mark Smith wrote: > > > >>>> The e2e transparency that IPv4 had lost, and IPv6 restores, is > >>>> ADDRESS transparenc

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] End-to-end "address transparency"

2011-01-17 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:39:27 -0600 Jack Bates wrote: > On 1/16/2011 2:52 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > >> It's a basic and necessary feature of ipv6-supporting loadbalancer devices. > >> > > > I don't think that is necessarily the case either. A group of hosts &

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] End-to-end "address transparency"

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:50:55 +0100 Rémi Després wrote: > Fred. > That's very much clarifying. > Thank you. > > More comments in line. > > Le 17 janv. 2011 à 18:54, Fred Baker a écrit : > > On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Rémi Després wrote : > > ... > > By strictest definition, NAT66 has been

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] End-to-end "address transparency"

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Jack, On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:36:23 -0600 Jack Bates wrote: > On 1/18/2011 6:33 AM, Mark Smith wrote: > > > > I don't think NAPT is necessary to achieve that. > > > It's not. There is also DSR (Direct Server Return). However, neither is > technically

Re: [Int-area] [v6ops] End-to-end "address transparency"

2011-01-19 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:09:45 -0600 Jack Bates wrote: > On 1/18/2011 10:04 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > > > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Jack Bates wrote: > > > >> I didn't see any options in current routers to support utilizing a single > >> path for all packets from a source (required for when cur