[Int-area] Re: [tsvwg] UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]

2024-11-19 Thread to...@strayalpha.com
Hi, all, I have not investigated this issue. Any new UDP option proposal would need to be evaluated in detail AND would need to follow the design requirements in the UDP options doc. Further, I would urge any option that is per-IP packet to be an IP option; UDP options are intended for user en

[Int-area] Re: [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]

2024-11-19 Thread C. M. Heard
For the record, Fred, I do not agree with that. IP Parcels should have a new protocol number (once again, see pont #3 here ). One is needed for safety and correctness, as there is NEVER any guarantee that despite all efforts

[Int-area] Re: [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]

2024-11-19 Thread lloyd.w...@yahoo.co.uk
These proposed changes to UDP are thoughtprovoking. When UDP-Lite (RFC3828) was proposed, it was eventually shunted to its own IP protocol number, rather than risk messing up existing UDP implementations and semantics for even a very minor change. I gather that move to a different port was done

[Int-area] Re: [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]

2024-11-19 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Lloyd, the parcel/AJ behavior is indicated by a new IPv6 HBH option that must be present, just the same way that the Jumbo Payload HBH option must be present in UDP jumbograms. The presence of the HBH option indicates the arrangement of the multi-segment UDP datagram that follows with no need to

[Int-area] Re: [tsvwg] UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]

2024-11-19 Thread to...@strayalpha.com
Hi, Lloyd, > On Nov 19, 2024, at 3:58 PM, lloyd.w...@yahoo.co.uk > wrote: > > ... > When UDP-Lite (RFC3828) was proposed, it was eventually shunted to its own IP > protocol number, rather than risk messing up existing UDP implementations and > semantics for even a very minor change. I gather

[Int-area] Re: [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]

2024-11-19 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Mike, thank you for taking the time to so thoroughly understand what is going on. See below for my responses marked as “>>”: Fred From: C. M. Heard Sent: Monday, November 18, 2024 3:13 PM To: Templin (US), Fred L Cc: Gorry Fairhurst ; Joe Touch ; Tom Herbert ; int-area ; 6man ; TSVWG Subjec