Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

2022-01-26 Thread Dirk Trossen
Geoff, Stewart, all, Linking in the arch-d list, following Eliot's intention to widen the audience for input. Let me come back to your statement "My point is that the semantic construct of an “address” does not limit or predetermine which of these models your network must use, nor does a netwo

Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

2022-01-26 Thread Dirk Trossen
Apologies, the below should read " then the question arises how much of an ephemeral nature we see in the relations between a client and an egress ", of course. -Original Message- From: Dirk Trossen Sent: 26 January 2022 10:21 To: 'Geoff Huston' ; Stewart Bryant Cc: int-area@ietf.org;

Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

2022-01-26 Thread Antoine FRESSANCOURT
Hello, The discussion reminds me of several points made in rather old articles questioning the notion of addressing and the relationship with naming. - Hauzeur, Bernard M. "A model for naming, addressing and routing." ACM Transactions on Information Systems (TOIS) 4.4 (1986): 293-311. (https:

Re: [Int-area] [Coin] Fwd: [arch-d] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

2022-01-26 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi Dave, Thanks for forwarding to COIN (and thanks to Marie-Jose for flagging the overlap). As with all these types of thread, it is hard to know where to send responses, and we end up copying an ever-increasing set of mailing lists. Truly sorry for that. Dave, I think you are right to d

Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

2022-01-26 Thread Geoff Huston
> On 26 Jan 2022, at 5:24 pm, Eliot Lear wrote: > > [copy architecture-discuss] > > Geoff, > > This is a pretty good characterization. In fact, it's exactly where we went > in the NSRG nearly 20 years ago, just after MO first kicked out 8+8. For > people's reference, we looked at naming at

Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

2022-01-26 Thread Dirk Trossen
Hi Geoff, Thanks for the thoughts below, which is much aligned with previous interactions on the development of the current Internet. Please see inline. Best, Dirk -Original Message- From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Huston Sent: 26 January 2022 20:35