Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-23 Thread Andrew Morgan
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Jason Voorhees wrote: > Hi: > > Some months ago I was using Courier+Postfix+OpenLDAP+Phamm > (http://www.phamm.org). > I'm not developer but I understood a little of phamm's code to realize > that it would not be difficult to use it with Cyrus. > > I'm planning to use Phamm ag

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-23 Thread Moser
Jason Voorhees schrieb: > I'm planning to use Phamm again but this time with Cyrus. First I need > to know how to execute cyrus tasks without cyradm (creating mailboxes, > setting/changing quota, remove mailboxes, etc). I was thinking about > cyradm + expect but it's just an idea by now. Becaus

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-23 Thread J. Bakshi
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Hello Adam, Thanks for your hint I'll definitely try those tool have a nice time >> I'm planning to use Phamm again but this time with Cyrus. First I need >> to know how to execute cyrus tasks without cyradm (creating mailboxes, >> setting/changing quota, remove mai

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-23 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> I'm planning to use Phamm again but this time with Cyrus. First I need > to know how to execute cyrus tasks without cyradm (creating mailboxes, > setting/changing quota, remove mailboxes, etc). All of these tasks, AFAIK, can be performed via IMAP. So I'd image they are performed the same way

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-22 Thread Jason Voorhees
Hi: Some months ago I was using Courier+Postfix+OpenLDAP+Phamm (http://www.phamm.org). I'm not developer but I understood a little of phamm's code to realize that it would not be difficult to use it with Cyrus. I'm planning to use Phamm again but this time with Cyrus. First I need to know how

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-18 Thread Dale Ghent
On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Vincent Fox wrote: > All I know is this: > > After running ZFS for the Cyrus mailstores for a year now I'd never > go back. Same here, for over year now... four opteron servers to handle 25,000 accounts. All of those servers are Solaris 10 and cyrus lives and w

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-18 Thread Vincent Fox
David Lang wrote: > and gaining some new worries along the way. while some are convinced that ZFS > is > the best thing ever others see it as trading a set of known problems for a > set > of unknown problems (plus it severly limits what OS you can run, which can > bring > it's own set of prob

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-18 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 03:28 -0700, David Lang wrote: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 21:12 -0700, David Lang wrote: > >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Wesley Craig wrote: > >>> On 17 Sep 2008, at 11:40, Jens Hoffrichter wrote: > Why does cyrus need it's own >

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-18 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 22:28 -0700, Scott M. Likens wrote: > ... > I debated writing a gui for Cyrus for administration, but I realized > that people implement Cyrus in so many different ways. Kerberos, LDAP, > *SQL, various forms of PAM. Then you add in virtual domains, and how > you might wan

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-18 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 21:12 -0700, David Lang wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Wesley Craig wrote: >>> On 17 Sep 2008, at 11:40, Jens Hoffrichter wrote: Why does cyrus need it's own structure for the mailboxes, which is similar, but not who

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-18 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 21:12 -0700, David Lang wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Wesley Craig wrote: > > On 17 Sep 2008, at 11:40, Jens Hoffrichter wrote: > >> Why does cyrus need it's own > >> structure for the mailboxes, which is similar, but not wholly > >> compatible, to maildir. Maildir and cyrus b

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-18 Thread Jorey Bump
David Lang wrote, at 09/18/2008 12:12 AM: > doign a quick google check on maildir it also appears that maildir is not as > standard as people think it is, it's defined almost entirely by the > implementation (DJB started it, but never worked to turn it into a standard > for > others to use) Th

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-18 Thread Reko Turja
> so you have OS X and Solaris (with opensolaris varients), that's not > a very wide > supproted base for running servers. FreeBSD 7.x onwards has ZFS available natively. ZFS support in CURRENT seems to have most of the latest stuff from OpenSolaris incorporated and the FS seems to be pretty st

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Scott M. Likens wrote: > Hi David, > > If you want ZFS you have several choices, OS X (Leopard), as there is a > development version that supports RAID-Z and works quite well. You > can't boot off of it, but that will change in Snow Leopard. > > Additionally you can use Opens

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Scott M. Likens
Hi David, If you want ZFS you have several choices, OS X (Leopard), as there is a development version that supports RAID-Z and works quite well. You can't boot off of it, but that will change in Snow Leopard. Additionally you can use Opensolaris such as Nexenta, or you can use fuse to get ZFS

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Scott M. Likens wrote: > With ZFS your leaving a "ton" of stone-age worries behind. You can go > much beyond inodes in the perks of ZFS. and gaining some new worries along the way. while some are convinced that ZFS is the best thing ever others see it as trading a set of k

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Scott M. Likens
(+84) 04 5 742 857 >> Mobi: (+84) 0904 34 38 38 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Bakshi >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:17 PM >> To: lartc >> Cc: Cyrus Mailing List >>

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Scott M. Likens
With ZFS your leaving a "ton" of stone-age worries behind. You can go much beyond inodes in the perks of ZFS. Vincent Fox wrote: > Wesley Craig wrote: > >>> Maildir and cyrus both suffer from the same >>> disadvantages (huge needs in terms of inodes etc.), >>> > With ZFS, inodes are

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread J. Bakshi
On Behalf Of J. Bakshi > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:17 PM > To: lartc > Cc: Cyrus Mailing List > Subject: Re: suggestion need to design an email system. > > lartc wrote: > >> hi, >> >> well, you can edit the gosa config file to only show you the u

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Wesley Craig wrote: > On 17 Sep 2008, at 11:40, Jens Hoffrichter wrote: >> Why does cyrus need it's own >> structure for the mailboxes, which is similar, but not wholly >> compatible, to maildir. Maildir and cyrus both suffer from the same >> disadvantages (huge needs in terms

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Vincent Fox
Wesley Craig wrote: >> Maildir and cyrus both suffer from the same >> disadvantages (huge needs in terms of inodes etc.), With ZFS, inodes are among the many stone-age worries you leave behind. ;-) Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Wesley Craig
On 17 Sep 2008, at 11:40, Jens Hoffrichter wrote: > Why does cyrus need it's own > structure for the mailboxes, which is similar, but not wholly > compatible, to maildir. Maildir and cyrus both suffer from the same > disadvantages (huge needs in terms of inodes etc.), yet I see no > distinctive adv

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Jens Hoffrichter
Hello, 2008/9/17 Simon Matter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Another thing which really intrigued me was the inherent >> cluster-ability of dovecot, which is a huge PITA to get to run on >> cyrus (as I have just implemented it a couple of months ago). Yet I >> only have read about it in the documentation

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Simon Matter
> Another thing which really intrigued me was the inherent > cluster-ability of dovecot, which is a huge PITA to get to run on > cyrus (as I have just implemented it a couple of months ago). Yet I > only have read about it in the documentation, and not actually seen it > in action. But at least the

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Jens Hoffrichter
Heya :) 2008/9/17 Adam Tauno Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I noticed that dovecot and cyrus don't differ that much in speed to >> each other. Both seem to excel at certain points, while being weaker >> at another. But overall the performance on a huge mailbox seemed to be >> comparable. Doveco

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> I noticed that dovecot and cyrus don't differ that much in speed to > each other. Both seem to excel at certain points, while being weaker > at another. But overall the performance on a huge mailbox seemed to be > comparable. Dovecot seemed to be slightly better at searching in the > mailbox, esp

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Do Duc Huy wrote: > My question is about my second problem. It 's about antispam and antivirus. > I have used amavis for spam and virus filter. This can block virus very well > but it have no effect in blocking spam mail, I think. Get the newest version of amavisd-new, and rea

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Jens Hoffrichter
Hi all, I know I will take some heat for this (as I know this is a cyrus mailinglist), but I'm going to offer some points for dovecot. I'm all for informed decisions, where one can weigh points against each other and decide on that basis. First of all, I have administrated both courier and cyrus

RE: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-17 Thread Do Duc Huy
Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:17 PM To: lartc Cc: Cyrus Mailing List Subject: Re: suggestion need to design an email system. lartc wrote: > hi, > > well, you can edit the gosa config file to only show you the users and > their e-mail, etc. you're not obligated to use the entire system ..

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-16 Thread J. Bakshi
lartc wrote: > hi, > > well, you can edit the gosa config file to only show you the users and > their e-mail, etc. you're not obligated to use the entire system ... > > when install it for clients, i only leave a few pieces of functionality > (so they don't blow their foot off). > > cheers > > cha

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-16 Thread lartc
hi, well, you can edit the gosa config file to only show you the users and their e-mail, etc. you're not obligated to use the entire system ... when install it for clients, i only leave a few pieces of functionality (so they don't blow their foot off). cheers charles Cyrus Home Page: ht

Re: suggestion need to design an email system.

2008-09-16 Thread J. Bakshi
lartc wrote: > hi, > > > >>> another important questing ; Is there >>> any webinterface which can manage the mail system based on LDAP ? >>> > > yes there is -- and it's great. > > https://oss.gonicus.de/labs/gosa/ > > gosa manages your ldap, and therefore your mail system. takes a bit o