Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-05-10 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:30:11AM -0400, Nik Conwell wrote: > > On Apr 11, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > >As for complexity? It's on the cusp. We've certainly had many more > >users on a single instance before, but we prefer to keep under 10k > >users > >per Cyrus instance these

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-05-10 Thread Nik Conwell
On Apr 11, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote: As for complexity? It's on the cusp. We've certainly had many more users on a single instance before, but we prefer to keep under 10k users per Cyrus instance these days for quicker recoverability. It really Hi - just a clarification que

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:37:56 +1000, Bron Gondwana wrote: Subject: Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes > > Agree on the external controllers. Ours are SCSI attached. We haven't > tried LVM, but the separation of responsibilities means a kernel crash > on the OS w

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-11 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 04:58:15AM -0400, Greg A. Woods wrote: > At Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:56:43 -0500, Nestor A. Diaz wrote: > Subject: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes > > > > These are the plans: (comments on every number will be apreciated) > > > >1

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-11 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:51:57 -0700, "David R Bosso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > --On April 11, 2007 8:26:37 PM +1000 Bron Gondwana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > We also apply one patch to reiserfs. It's a one liner, using > > generic_write rather than the Hans Reiser special (5% faster

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > > 2. Which filesystem seems to be the better ? ext3 ? xfs ? > > reiserfs ? > > We are using xfs. > I tested xfs before going back to reiserfs. I found the performance to > be acceptable aside from quite miserable backup performance once backups > kicked off. (Although reiserfs is now pretty

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-11 Thread John Madden
> > 2. Which filesystem seems to be the better ? ext3 ? xfs ? > reiserfs ? > > We are using xfs. I tested xfs before going back to reiserfs. I found the performance to be acceptable aside from quite miserable backup performance once backups kicked off. (Although reiserfs is now pretty miserab

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-11 Thread Rudy Gevaert
Nestor A. Diaz wrote: These are the plans: (comments on every number will be apreciated) I (at Ghent university) use: 1. Linux LVM over a 600 GB RAID 10 ( 4 x 300 GB) An EMC CX400 and CX500, with fibre channel and ata disks. 12 luns are 400 GiG raid 5, 6 of them on FC disks (primairy)

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-11 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:41:11PM -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > >>Please specify those weaknesses. 250,000 mailboxes on reiserfs right > >>now, always open to options. > >The main problem I'm aware of is that in the event of a "problem", > >reiserfsck 1) can take a long time (like weeks) to

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-11 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:58:23PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:56:43 -0500 > >1. Linux LVM over a 600 GB RAID 10 ( 4 x 300 GB) > >2. Which filesystem seems to be the better ? ext3 ? xfs ? > > reiserfs ? > > Do NEVER use XFS on GNU/Linux. (C)XFS is a brilliant FS on

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-11 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:56:43 -0500, Nestor A. Diaz wrote: Subject: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes > > These are the plans: (comments on every number will be apreciated) > >1. Linux LVM over a 600 GB RAID 10 ( 4 x 300 GB) I would only ever be able to recommend NetBS

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes (Thanks)

2007-04-11 Thread lartc
Hi Nestor, Would love to the impad.conf and cyrus.conf if you would be so kind as to share them ... Cheers Charles On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 01:15 -0500, Nestor A. Diaz wrote: > Thank you all of you who give me that precious tips, i am going to put > them on practice, and i will tell you when th

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes (Thanks)

2007-04-10 Thread Nestor A. Diaz
Thank you all of you who give me that precious tips, i am going to put them on practice, and i will tell you when the system will be finished in order to share my experience with you. Slds. -- Nestor A. Diaz Ingeniero de Sistemas Tel. +57 1-600-5490 x 211 Cel. +57 316-227-3593 Tel. SIP: sip:[E

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Robert Mueller
> 1. Linux LVM over a 600 GB RAID 10 ( 4 x 300 GB) > 2. Which filesystem seems to be the better ? ext3 ? xfs ? reiserfs ? > 3. Which options to format the filesystem ? acording to the chosed > filesystem > 4. Which pop3 / imap proxy to use ? > 5. Single instance or multiple instance

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Timo Schoeler
> ; Best: ZFS on Solaris ;) > > Or now on MacOSX (Leopard) or on FreeBSD (7.0)! both are not officially supported; ZFS support on FreeBSD is experimental. furthermore, as a (not only, but also) Mac user for more than 15 years who dropped use of Apple products entirely in 2005 (yes, there were good

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> Both partitions were formatted with the following commands: >mkfs -t ext3 -j -m 1 -O dir_index /dev/sdb1 Yep, "-O dir_index" is the important bit. With that the performance difference between ext3 and other filesystems is dramatically diminished. >tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/sdb1 > Our moun

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Wesley Craig
On 10 Apr 2007, at 12:40, John Madden wrote: Indeed, I've seen reiserfs do some very long fsck's, but I've seen the same out of ext3. But for a filesystem of 35 million mail files, I figure it's got to beat ext3 on performance, at least. ...But there don't seem to be any stats at this scale to

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Andy Fiddaman
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Timo Schoeler wrote: ; ; Best: ZFS on Solaris ;) Or now on MacOSX (Leopard) or on FreeBSD (7.0)! (although Solaris is likely to remain the most stable implementation for the moment) Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Andrew Morgan
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Nestor A. Diaz wrote: Hello People, I am a proud cyrus user and fan, right know i need o implement a 15K users cyrus mailstore, since i have been using cyrus for an average 400 users mailstore, i will like to hear comments for setting up a cyrus for a 15K users. I cur

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
Please specify those weaknesses. 250,000 mailboxes on reiserfs right now, always open to options. The main problem I'm aware of is that in the event of a "problem", reiserfsck 1) can take a long time (like weeks) to complete, 2) doesn't necessarily fix the problems. ext3 doesn't have these prob

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread John Madden
> The main problem I'm aware of is that in the event of a "problem", > reiserfsck 1) can take a long time (like weeks) to complete, 2) > doesn't necessarily fix the problems. ext3 doesn't have these > problems. Indeed, I've seen reiserfs do some very long fsck's, but I've seen the same out o

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Wesley Craig
On 10 Apr 2007, at 11:16, John Madden wrote: Please specify those weaknesses. 250,000 mailboxes on reiserfs right now, always open to options. The main problem I'm aware of is that in the event of a "problem", reiserfsck 1) can take a long time (like weeks) to complete, 2) doesn't necessar

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Chuck Amadi
John Madden wrote: My guess: ext3. ReiferFS has some very annoying weaknesses that may affect you. Please specify those weaknesses. 250,000 mailboxes on reiserfs right now, always open to options. John Hi May be of interest regarding point 2. I saved this postfix post not lo

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread John Madden
> My guess: ext3. ReiferFS has some very annoying weaknesses that may > affect you. Please specify those weaknesses. 250,000 mailboxes on reiserfs right now, always open to options. John -- John Madden Sr. UNIX Systems Engineer Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Timo Schoeler
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:56:43 -0500 "Nestor A. Diaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello People, > > I am a proud cyrus user and fan, right know i need o implement a 15K > users cyrus mailstore, since i have been using cyrus for an average > 400 users mailstore, i will like to hear comments for se

Re: Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Zachariah Mully
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 06:56 -0500, Nestor A. Diaz wrote: > Hello People, > > I am a proud cyrus user and fan, right know i need o implement a 15K > users cyrus mailstore, since i have been using cyrus for an average 400 > users mailstore, i will like to hear comments for setting up a cyrus for

Recomendations for a 15000 Cyrus Mailboxes

2007-04-10 Thread Nestor A. Diaz
Hello People, I am a proud cyrus user and fan, right know i need o implement a 15K users cyrus mailstore, since i have been using cyrus for an average 400 users mailstore, i will like to hear comments for setting up a cyrus for a 15K users. I currently have a ' postfix / postgresql / cyrus