Re: Protecting message files acess even from root

2014-02-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 11:38 -0200, Fabio S. Schmidt wrote: > Thanks Sven, I really appreciate your considerations, especially about > the encryption of the SMTP traffic. > I will test Mandatory Access Control (MCS), like Se-linux(YES, I know > that NSA wrote it) or Apparmor for instance, and custom

Re: Protecting message files acess even from root

2014-02-01 Thread Fabio S. Schmidt
Thanks Sven, I really appreciate your considerations, especially about the encryption of the SMTP traffic. I will test Mandatory Access Control (MCS), like Se-linux(YES, I know that NSA wrote it) or Apparmor for instance, and customising SUDO: http://pubs.gpaterno.com//2009/protecting-confidential

Re: Protecting message files acess even from root

2014-02-01 Thread Sven Schwedas
Given that a physical root can bypass any and every ACL, encrypting messages (upon receiving, e.g.) is the only remotely plausible way to prevent access. And even then the admin could sniff all SMTP traffic and copy messages before encryption, so you'd need to monitor him anyway. Why again does

Re: Protecting message files acess even from root

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Blackman
On 31 Jan 2014, at 16:10, Fabio S. Schmidt wrote: > Hello! > Considering that Cyrus stores messages in files, does anyone have any > experience on the protection of access to these files, even for the root > user? > > I researched about SELINUX and found no conclusive documentation. > htt

Re: Protecting message files acess even from root

2014-01-31 Thread Fabio S. Schmidt
Hi Dan ! Thanks for the answer ! I'm trying to prevent local access from a physical administrator. Even if looged as root should be impossible to read the messages on the Cyrus partitions. Other emails stores that I have dealt with also stores the messages in files. Blackman and Goetz, Thanks for

Re: Protecting message files acess even from root

2014-01-31 Thread Patrick Goetz
Yes, this is the answer. If messages need to protected from everyone, including root, then they should be PGP encrypted at the source; with MUA client-side decryption. On 01/31/2014 10:37 AM, Mark Blackman wrote: > > On 31 Jan 2014, at 16:10, Fabio S. Schmidt wrote: > >> Hello! >> Considering

Re: Protecting message files acess even from root

2014-01-31 Thread Dan White
On 01/31/14 14:10 -0200, Fabio S. Schmidt wrote: >Hello! >Considering that Cyrus stores messages in files, does anyone have any >experience on the protection of access to these files, even for the root >user? > >I researched about SELINUX and found no conclusive documentation. Are you attempting t

Protecting message files acess even from root

2014-01-31 Thread Fabio S. Schmidt
Hello! Considering that Cyrus stores messages in files, does anyone have any experience on the protection of access to these files, even for the root user? I researched about SELINUX and found no conclusive documentation. -- My best regards, Fabio Soares Schmidt Linux Professional Institute -