Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-06 Thread Patrick Boutilier
Zachariah Mully wrote: > Patrick Boutilier wrote: > >> We have used 3ware cards as well but are now switching to Highpoint >> RAID cards. >> > > Hopefully you're testing them extensively. I found them, at least the > last time I used them (RocketRAID?), to be woefully lacking in the linux > dr

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-06 Thread Zachariah Mully
Patrick Boutilier wrote: > We have used 3ware cards as well but are now switching to Highpoint RAID > cards. > Hopefully you're testing them extensively. I found them, at least the last time I used them (RocketRAID?), to be woefully lacking in the linux driver area as well as performance. In

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-06 Thread Patrick Boutilier
Vincent Fox wrote: > Jeff Fookson wrote: >> We are planning to run the mirrors >> off a 4-port 3ware RAID card even though we're not overly fond of >> 3ware (we have a fair amount of experience >> with RAID5 arrays on 3ware cards on our research machines where they >> perform adequately but >> n

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-05 Thread Rob Mueller
> but all attempts to simulate > a client load-pattern are devilishly difficult to get right. I can atest to this as well. I created an "imapstresstest" tool a few years back to attempt to stress our cyrus installs. It attempts to emulate all the main actions of a running IMAP server like lots

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-05 Thread Vincent Fox
Jeff Fookson wrote: > We are planning to run the mirrors > off a 4-port 3ware RAID card even though we're not overly fond of > 3ware (we have a fair amount of experience > with RAID5 arrays on 3ware cards on our research machines where they > perform adequately but > not more). We are hoping the

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-05 Thread Jeff Fookson
Vincent Fox wrote: >David Lang wrote: > > >>raid 6 allows you to loose any two disks and keep going. >> >> >> >> > >This is turning into a RAID discussion. > >The orginal poster was doing a RAID-5 across 3 disks, and has stopped >commenting but it's probably because that's all the hardware

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-05 Thread Vincent Fox
David Lang wrote: > > raid 6 allows you to loose any two disks and keep going. > > This is turning into a RAID discussion. The orginal poster was doing a RAID-5 across 3 disks, and has stopped commenting but it's probably because that's all the hardware he could scrounge. I am a staunch memb

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-05 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Ian G Batten wrote: > On 05 Mar 08, at 1549, Simon Matter wrote: > >>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Ian G Batten wrote: >>> software RAID5 is a performance disaster area at the best of times unless it can take advantage of intimate knowledge of the intent log in the file

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-05 Thread Ian G Batten
On 05 Mar 08, at 1549, Simon Matter wrote: >> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Ian G Batten wrote: >> >>> software RAID5 is a performance >>> disaster area at the best of times unless it can take advantage of >>> intimate knowledge of the intent log in the filesystem (RAID-Z does >>> this), >> >> actually, un

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-05 Thread Simon Matter
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Ian G Batten wrote: > >> software RAID5 is a performance >> disaster area at the best of times unless it can take advantage of >> intimate knowledge of the intent log in the filesystem (RAID-Z does >> this), > > actually, unless you have top-notch hardware raid controllers, s

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-04 Thread Andrew McNamara
>it takes long enough to rebuild an array with large drives that the >chances of a second drive failing during the rebuild become noticable. Worse, the act of rebuilding can prompt a second, marginal disk to fail. Presumably the mechanics are the head runs through a patch of debris in an otherwise

Re: Miserable performance of cyrus-imapd 2.3.9 -- seems to be lockingissues

2008-03-04 Thread David Lang
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Ian G Batten wrote: > software RAID5 is a performance > disaster area at the best of times unless it can take advantage of > intimate knowledge of the intent log in the filesystem (RAID-Z does > this), actually, unless you have top-notch hardware raid controllers, software ra