Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-30 Thread Ken Murchison
Robert Mueller wrote: accept the message, store it "as is" and ignore the stuff you don't understand when building indexes. And ignore it when using the indexes. Yes, but where's the patch to do that? I'll have a guess that something like this already happens. My guess is that the charset m

Re: cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff nonsense (Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM)

2006-05-30 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Mon, 29 May 2006 23:27:10 +0200 (CEST), Simon Matter wrote: > > Stop, are you joking? Did you ever work in the corporate world? Did you > ever have a boss in a large international company? Did you ever tell him > that the server you installed _rejects_ mail? Indeed. Many times. In store-and-

Re: cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff nonsense (Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM)

2006-05-29 Thread Simon Matter
> At Sat, 27 May 2006 11:56:38 +1000, > Robert Mueller wrote: >> >> >> Comments on the non-local ones: >> >> - cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff >> > >> > Was it not the position held by CMU in the last five years or so that >> one >> > such patch would *have* do to it properly and re-encode the header to >> s

Re: cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff nonsense (Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM)

2006-05-29 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Sat, 27 May 2006 11:56:38 +1000, Robert Mueller wrote: > > >> Comments on the non-local ones: > >> - cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff > > > > Was it not the position held by CMU in the last five years or so that one > > such patch would *have* do to it properly and re-encode the header to some > > default

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-28 Thread Robert Mueller
accept the message, store it "as is" and ignore the stuff you don't understand when building indexes. And ignore it when using the indexes. Yes, but where's the patch to do that? I'll have a guess that something like this already happens. My guess is that the charset mapping tables ignore 8-

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 27 May 2006, Ken Murchison wrote: > Henrique, do you recall if SEARCH dies, or just doesn't get any useful > hits on non-tagged 8-bit headers? I don't recall this either. But if you did accept the patch, I think it is time to go over IMAP SEARCH and make sure it doesn't do stupid things

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-27 Thread Ken Murchison
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2006, Ken Murchison wrote: Comments on the non-local ones: - cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff As I said in my reply to the CVS commit (which I noticed before this mail), I am quite surprised by this patch being accepted. Was it not the position held by C

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 27 May 2006, Bron Gondwana wrote: > > > 4. Recode correctly in MIME encoding based on the message charset - Would > > > be great but: > > > > Nah, just according to some site-wide config option from imap.conf would > > be > > more than good enough. > > Wow, I'm glad you know enough about

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-27 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Sat, 27 May 2006 02:06:20 -0300, "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, 27 May 2006, Robert Mueller wrote: > > I think having this as an *option* is perfectly reasonable. There are > > So do I, Debian has this patch for three or four years now. It comes with > a >

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-27 Thread Tarjei Huse
On 05/26/06 20:37, Simon Matter wrote: Hij - cyrus-fromheader-2.3.3.diff Outlook sucks. I hate to have to commit yet another M$ workaround. How widespread are these non-RFC2822-compliant messages? I do not think it is just outlook. I've also seen problems with notes doing stuff like this. I

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 27 May 2006, Carlos Horowicz wrote: > I was just asking to the list if Fastmail's cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff would > let avoid rejections due to "Message contains NUL chars" No it won't, and you *really* don't want to store anything with embedded NULs, you have to at least remove them, as repl

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 27 May 2006, Robert Mueller wrote: > I think having this as an *option* is perfectly reasonable. There are So do I, Debian has this patch for three or four years now. It comes with a big warning to the likes of "You are stupid to enable this and still wonder why multi-language search is n

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Carlos Horowicz
Andreas Hasenack wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 05:35:30PM -0300, Carlos Horowicz wrote: Andreas Hasenack wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 05:02:25PM -0300, Carlos Horowicz wrote: Hi I get only a daily few of "Message contains invalid header" but a couple of thousand per d

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Robert Mueller
Comments on the non-local ones: - cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff Was it not the position held by CMU in the last five years or so that one such patch would *have* do to it properly and re-encode the header to some default charset, in order not to corrupt the store with lack of charset information (for

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Andreas Hasenack
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 05:35:30PM -0300, Carlos Horowicz wrote: > > Andreas Hasenack wrote: > > >On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 05:02:25PM -0300, Carlos Horowicz wrote: > > > > > >>Hi > >> > >>I get only a daily few of "Message contains invalid header" but a couple > >>of thousand per day of "Message

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Carlos Horowicz
Andreas Hasenack wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 05:02:25PM -0300, Carlos Horowicz wrote: Hi I get only a daily few of "Message contains invalid header" but a couple of thousand per day of "Message contains NUL characters" from lmtpd ... What version of cyrus? There was a bug that

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Andreas Hasenack
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 05:02:25PM -0300, Carlos Horowicz wrote: > Hi > > I get only a daily few of "Message contains invalid header" but a couple > of thousand per day of "Message contains NUL characters" from lmtpd ... What version of cyrus? There was a bug that caused the NUL error with long

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Ken Murchison wrote: > Comments on the non-local ones: > - cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff As I said in my reply to the CVS commit (which I noticed before this mail), I am quite surprised by this patch being accepted. Was it not the position held by CMU in the last five years or so tha

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Carlos Horowicz
Hi I get only a daily few of "Message contains invalid header" but a couple of thousand per day of "Message contains NUL characters" from lmtpd ... I've read through all threads both in postfix and cyrus lists about this, but didn't find any conclusion on how to avoid the bounces ... has the

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Simon Matter
> Hij >> - cyrus-fromheader-2.3.3.diff >> >> Outlook sucks. I hate to have to commit yet another M$ workaround. How >> widespread are these non-RFC2822-compliant messages? > > I do not think it is just outlook. I've also seen problems with notes > doing stuff like this. > > I get errors like this

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Andreas Hasenack
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 08:14:51PM +0200, Tarjei Huse wrote: > Hij > >- cyrus-fromheader-2.3.3.diff > > > >Outlook sucks. I hate to have to commit yet another M$ workaround. How > >widespread are these non-RFC2822-compliant messages? > > I do not think it is just outlook. I've also seen problem

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Tarjei Huse
Hij - cyrus-fromheader-2.3.3.diff Outlook sucks. I hate to have to commit yet another M$ workaround. How widespread are these non-RFC2822-compliant messages? I do not think it is just outlook. I've also seen problems with notes doing stuff like this. I get errors like this one in my logs

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread John Capo
Quoting Ken Murchison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > - cyrus-fromheader-2.3.3.diff > > Outlook sucks. I hate to have to commit yet another M$ workaround. How > widespread are these non-RFC2822-compliant messages? Its not an Outlook issue. Its other IMAP providers that deliver non-standard headers

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-26 Thread Ken Murchison
Bron Gondwana wrote: I've finally split out all the patches that we use here into individual items. Comments on the non-local ones: - cyrus-8bit-2.3.3.diff Applied to CVS. - cyrus-anyone-2.3.3.diff If you want to complete the documentation, I'll consider applying the patch. - cyrus-comma

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread Robert Mueller
I know we discussed this in the past, but I can't seem to find the thread. What part of the existing STATUS code causes the bottleneck? Is it STATUS_RECENT and STATUS_UNSEEN? It's a combination of both. The main things are: 1. Status UNSEEN and RECENT both have to loop over the cyrus.index fi

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Loftis
--On May 23, 2006 10:34:20 PM +1000 Robert Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Statuscache also piqued my interestDoes it give any win for POP3 clients? We've a *HUGE* number of Outlook users that have the terribly wrong idea that they just MUST poll every minute. That along with the se

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread Ken Murchison
Robert Mueller wrote: Cool, some of the patches look really interesting and I'm considering to include one or the other into my rpm packages. For example the statuscache patch seems very nice. Just to be sure, are there any license restrictions on the patches? No, no license restrictions.

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread Ken Murchison
John Madden wrote: I'm in the process of porting a couple of patches from UMich into 2.3 and then I'm going to make a release which includes a fix for an easily exploitable buffer overflow in pop3d. Ehm? Does this affect the 2.2.x branch as well? No. The exploit is in a feature added in 2

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread John Madden
> I'm in the process of porting a couple of patches from UMich into 2.3 > and then I'm going to make a release which includes a fix for an easily > exploitable buffer overflow in pop3d. Ehm? Does this affect the 2.2.x branch as well? John -- John Madden Sr. UNIX Systems Engineer Ivy Tech

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread Ken Murchison
Ken Murchison wrote: Bron Gondwana wrote: I've finally split out all the patches that we use here into individual items. I know some people were interested in the "don't allow users to set the anyone ACL" patch as well. http://cyrus.brong.fastmail.fm/ Ken - I'd love to work with you on gettin

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread Ken Murchison
Bron Gondwana wrote: I've finally split out all the patches that we use here into individual items. I know some people were interested in the "don't allow users to set the anyone ACL" patch as well. http://cyrus.brong.fastmail.fm/ Ken - I'd love to work with you on getting as many as possible

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread Robert Mueller
Statuscache also piqued my interestDoes it give any win for POP3 clients? We've a *HUGE* number of Outlook users that have the terribly wrong idea that they just MUST poll every minute. That along with the seen state stuff would be a good thing for us. No, it's only for IMAP clients an

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread Robert Mueller
Cool, some of the patches look really interesting and I'm considering to include one or the other into my rpm packages. For example the statuscache patch seems very nice. Just to be sure, are there any license restrictions on the patches? No, no license restrictions. We'd love these to get bac

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Loftis
--On May 23, 2006 8:37:45 AM +0200 Simon Matter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cool, some of the patches look really interesting and I'm considering to include one or the other into my rpm packages. For example the statuscache patch seems very nice. Just to be sure, are there any license restric

Re: Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-22 Thread Simon Matter
> I've finally split out all the patches that we use here into > individual items. > > I know some people were interested in the "don't allow users to > set the anyone ACL" patch as well. > > http://cyrus.brong.fastmail.fm/ > > Ken - I'd love to work with you on getting as many as possible of these

Cyrus Patches used at FastMail.FM

2006-05-22 Thread Bron Gondwana
I've finally split out all the patches that we use here into individual items. I know some people were interested in the "don't allow users to set the anyone ACL" patch as well. http://cyrus.brong.fastmail.fm/ Ken - I'd love to work with you on getting as many as possible of these into upstream,