Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-30 Thread Bryan Hill
On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012, at 09:46 PM, Eric Luyten wrote: >> On Sun, September 30, 2012 6:47 pm, Bryan Hill wrote: >> >> <...> >>> Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but I'm curious as to the preferred method >>> of forcing a reindex on a mailbox?

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-30 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012, at 09:46 PM, Eric Luyten wrote: > On Sun, September 30, 2012 6:47 pm, Bryan Hill wrote: > > <...> > > Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but I'm curious as to the preferred method > > of forcing a reindex on a mailbox? I know it triggers when a user logs in > > and accesses t

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-30 Thread Eric Luyten
On Sun, September 30, 2012 6:47 pm, Bryan Hill wrote: <...> > Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but I'm curious as to the preferred method > of forcing a reindex on a mailbox? I know it triggers when a user logs in > and accesses the mailbox. I would like to divide up users and perform the > rei

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-30 Thread Bryan Hill
On Sep 25, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Deniss wrote: > > > On 25.09.2012 15:28, Eric Luyten wrote: >> On Tue, September 25, 2012 2:01 pm, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> about three weeks ago we upgraded our Cyrus installation from 2.3.x to >>> 2.4.16. >>> We were aware of the reindexi

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-27 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
Hi Eric, --On 25. September 2012 14:28:03 +0200 Eric Luyten wrote: Thank you for sharing your experiences. As a site willing/needing to upgrade from 2.3.16 to 2.4.X this fall, we are interested in learning about your storage backend characteristics. What read/write IOPS rates were you regi

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-26 Thread Wolfgang Breyha
Simon Matter wrote, on 26.09.2012 06:58: > I have not used freedup for restoring the hardlinks but I'm interested in > the patch. If it's not big could you post it here? Sure! attached. I built a RPM based on http://pkgs.repoforge.org/freedup/freedup-1.5.3-1.rf.src.rpm and latest source. But buil

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-26 Thread Deniss
On 2012.09.26. 10:24, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Hi, > > I've got questions regarding the procedure you describe. I'm trying to > wrap my head around the various possible approaches to replication and > clustering. > > --On 25. September 2012 21:57:49 +0300 Deniss wrote: > >> migration proces

Re: Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-26 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
Hi, I've got questions regarding the procedure you describe. I'm trying to wrap my head around the various possible approaches to replication and clustering. --On 25. September 2012 21:57:49 +0300 Deniss wrote: migration process from 2.3 to 2.4 took ~ one year for our installation. we conv

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
--On 26. September 2012 09:42:17 +0300 Janne Peltonen wrote: As it happened, we didn't have any trouble with the reconstruction of any mailboxes, the process went flawlessly - it was just slow. Same here. Also, it did cause observable slowness only because at first, I hadn't reconstructed

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Janne Peltonen
Hi! On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 05:55:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Breyha wrote: > Time was not the limiting factor for us. Availability and safety of our > mailboxes was. Nobody can guarantee you that the migration works out > flawlessly. If moving one mailbox fails I have troubles with exactly one > mailbox

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012, at 01:25 AM, Wolfgang Breyha wrote: > On 2012-09-25 19:05, Simon Beale wrote: > > The only gotcha I experienced was I forgot that cyrus was configured to > > hardlink mail, which of course was no longer the case after each mailbox > > was migrated, so my disk usage exploded. (

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Simon Matter
> On 2012-09-25 19:05, Simon Beale wrote: >> The only gotcha I experienced was I forgot that cyrus was configured to >> hardlink mail, which of course was no longer the case after each mailbox >> was migrated, so my disk usage exploded. (But easily fixed/restored once >> identified). > > What did y

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Wolfgang Breyha
On 2012-09-25 19:05, Simon Beale wrote: > The only gotcha I experienced was I forgot that cyrus was configured to > hardlink mail, which of course was no longer the case after each mailbox > was migrated, so my disk usage exploded. (But easily fixed/restored once > identified). What did you use fo

Re: Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Deniss
On 25.09.2012 15:28, Eric Luyten wrote: > On Tue, September 25, 2012 2:01 pm, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> about three weeks ago we upgraded our Cyrus installation from 2.3.x to >> 2.4.16. >> We were aware of the reindexing issue, so we took precautionary >> measures, but they didn'

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Simon Beale
> Hi! > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 03:25:45PM +0200, Wolfgang Breyha wrote: >> Sebastian Hagedorn wrote, on 25.09.2012 14:01: >> > I realize that some of our problems were caused by infrastructure >> that's >> > not up to current standards, but nonetheless I would really urge you >> to >> > never ag

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Wolfgang Breyha
Janne Peltonen wrote, on 25.09.2012 15:34: > Could you elaborate on that? I considered that option, but seeing as moving > even a couple dozen users from a backend to another using RENAME takes hours > and one backend contains thousands of users, I decided to just live with the > ~1 > day of unbea

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Janne Peltonen
Hi! On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 03:25:45PM +0200, Wolfgang Breyha wrote: > Sebastian Hagedorn wrote, on 25.09.2012 14:01: > > I realize that some of our problems were caused by infrastructure that's > > not up to current standards, but nonetheless I would really urge you to > > never again use an up

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Wolfgang Breyha
Sebastian Hagedorn wrote, on 25.09.2012 14:01: > I realize that some of our problems were caused by infrastructure that's > not up to current standards, but nonetheless I would really urge you to > never again use an upgrade mechanism like that. Give admins a chance to > upgrade indexes in the b

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Ben Carter
Can you tell us more about your storage configuration? Ben -- Ben Carter University of Pittsburgh/CSSD b...@pitt.edu 412-624-6470 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ To Unsubscribe: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mai

Re: Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Eric Luyten
On Tue, September 25, 2012 2:01 pm, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Hi, > > > about three weeks ago we upgraded our Cyrus installation from 2.3.x to 2.4.16. > We were aware of the reindexing issue, so we took precautionary > measures, but they didn't help a lot. We've got about 7 TB of mail data for >

Another 2.4 upgrade horror story

2012-09-25 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
Hi, about three weeks ago we upgraded our Cyrus installation from 2.3.x to 2.4.16. We were aware of the reindexing issue, so we took precautionary measures, but they didn't help a lot. We've got about 7 TB of mail data for almost 200,000 mailboxes. We did the upgrade on a Sunday and had told o