Re: [Ilugc] ext4 file system - a nice aritcle

2008-05-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ashok Gautham J. wrote: I normally like bleeding edge stuff. But I am yet to see a distro with ext4 support in its installer. I run Debian Sid. How do I get ext4 running on the same system given that all my partitions are ext3 (/ /boot /home)? I suppose I should format a new drive as ext4 and

Re: [Ilugc] Sun open-sources VirtualBox

2008-05-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Sivasankar Chander wrote: Not sure if this is widely known, but there's a VM from Sun that has been recently open-sourced under a variety of licenses. It runs on a wide variety of Linux distros, including Fedora, Ubuntu, RHEL, etc. as host OSes, as well as Solaris and Windoze. As guest OSes, it

Re: [Ilugc] Security in Ubuntu

2008-05-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
senthilraja P wrote: Hi, I installed edubuntu fiesty, and later on forgot the password. In a guess, i tried in recovery mode, and i got the shell prompt. I attempted to edit the passwd and shadow file, and to my surprise i was able to update it. Then later on i rebooted and logged in normal wa

[Ilugc] Fedora 9 (Sulphur) Released

2008-05-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, Get It: http://get.fedoraproject.org/ Official Announcement: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-May/msg7.html Press Release: http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2008/fedora9.html Few words from the current Fedora Project Leader, Paul W. Frields: https:

Re: [Ilugc] Security in Ubuntu

2008-05-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Dennis Francis wrote: But whatever encryption you provide, anyone with access to the hardware is capable of destroying your data. The operating system security is only about cutting off 'soft' attacks on the system. That's a different kind of security you are talking about. I was referring to

Re: [Ilugc] Fedora 9 (Sulphur) Released

2008-05-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Gowthaman Basuvaraj wrote: Hi the mirror list returned by http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?path=pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/i386/os/ gives ftp://mirror.wbut.ac.in/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/i386/os as first mirror and is dead jigdo fails repeatedly... Here is the reaso

Re: [Ilugc] Pledge to download Firefox 3 on the release date and help Firefox to set worldrecord

2008-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Senthil Murugan wrote: Hi Guys, Please spend half a minute and pledge to download Firefox 3 on the release date http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/ Though we know that Firefox will get more downloads on the release date, this will help you in reminding the download on the release da

[Ilugc] Re: [PLUG] survey of FOSS success stories

2008-06-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: We would be happy if members of these lists could suggest places he could investigate. You may contact him at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] also feel free to post such things in this list. Enterprise Linux vendors have success stories listed in their website. It is easy eno

Re: [Ilugc] odf to wiki

2008-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi, is there a tool to convert an odf document to wiki format? This is a very common need when something is being thrown out for discussion. I found these by a Google search http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Odt2Wiki http://www.ooowiki.de/Writer2MediaWiki http:

Re: [Ilugc] odf to wiki

2008-06-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On 14-Jun-08, at 8:51 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: hi, is there a tool to convert an odf document to wiki format? This is a very common need when something is being thrown out for discussion. I found these by a Google search http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki

Re: [Ilugc] better tool than 'iostat' for i/o analysis in linux - anyone?

2008-06-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Balu manyam wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Raja Subramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Balu manyam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: so my question to the gurus is there a powerful tool thank iostat to help mesort out whats going on ? Try kprobes. kern

Re: [Ilugc] virtualisation

2008-06-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
rajasekhar kuppa wrote: Hi All, I was going through some virtualisation stuff and stumbled across this site : http://ovirt.org/ The stuff they mention is beautiful, perhaps at par with VM ware. How ever i don't know the fundamentals of this and am posting this in the hope that some one mig

Re: [Ilugc] virtualisation

2008-06-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Shuveb Hussain wrote: I also wrote an application called EasyVZ (GPL) that can be used to manage OpenVZ servers. It is written in PyGTK and has been downloaded more than 2600 times since it was released last year. Users are asking for many features, if someone is willing to help, please contact

Re: [Ilugc] virtualisation

2008-06-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Shuveb Hussain wrote: I developed EasyVZ well before libvirt was usable. And anyways libvirt did not have support for OpenVZ when I wrote EasyVZ. In EasyVZ's case, both the client and the server are written in Python. So, I was quickly done with with the project. After finishing it, I wrote the

Re: [Ilugc] virtualisation

2008-06-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
rajasekhar kuppa wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response. how ever, what i am looking for is some thing from the open source world that is capable of what VM Ware is doing, that is moving virtual servers from hosts in Live production environments. Refer http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_H

Re: [Ilugc] Bill Gates got Windows 1.0 source-code from trash-bin

2008-06-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
shirish wrote: Hi all, First of all sorry for cross-posting the same query on so many lists. I read somewhere couple of days ago that Bill Gates actually got his source-code from some trash-bin or something like that or some part of it. I don't remember the website or any of the details and th

Re: [Ilugc] to start iilugc in sri krishna college of engg & tech coimbatore

2008-06-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
sathis kumar wrote: hai i am sathis kumar systems manager for sri krishna college of engg & tech , coimbatore. our college interested in using open source software. Now we are in the process of setting up separate open source lab and open source wireless lab. our management and principal intr

Re: [Ilugc] Re: which Linux distros are dying?

2008-07-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
sriram wrote: Masatran, R. Deepak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: * Ashok Gautham J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-07-03 Also Red Hat and Fedora are well established. IIT uses RHEL, Fedora and Debian.. It is unlikely to switch to Ubuntu et al. IIT appears to be moving towards Debian...The DCF of my de

Re: [Ilugc] Re: which Linux distros are dying?

2008-07-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
sriram wrote: my comment above about ubuntu being king is limited to iitm internal users (which is the thread i was replying to). as for external users, the ftp.iitm traffic shows fedora as most popular by a huge margin (though we have been mirroring debian etc for much longer). it is news to me

[Ilugc] [Fwd: Fedora, meet OLPC. OLPC, meet Fedora.]

2008-07-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, For your consideration --- Begin Message --- Did you know that the OLPC project is the largest single "customer" of Fedora in the entire world? The rumours of OLPC's death have been greatly exaggerated. Despite some unfortunate statements by the project's erstwhile CEO, the OLPC project

Re: [Ilugc] Ruby

2008-07-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ashok Gautham J. wrote: I dont intend a flame. I prefer Ruby's way over Py's way. But it looks like though Ruby was surging forward near 2007, there are many projects in rubyforge et al. that are outdated. Half the bindings seem half done. Some are inexistent. Though I absolutely love the "Ruby W

Re: [Ilugc] MS Firefox 2007 Professional (What the hell is this!!!!!)

2008-07-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Mohan R wrote: Enough!!! Its better to ask geeks about this, In 2006, what happend between microsoft and firefox(http://www.msfirefox.com/microsoft-press-releases.html)? Is there any deal? Is these sites are real? these sites are still present, If these sites are fake, then why they are still the

[Ilugc] Fedora RPM Packaging 101: July 28th 2008

2008-07-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hello folks, We are going to host a *public* IRC session in #fedora-india, freenode coming Monday at 3:00 PM and do a quick walk through on the basics of RPM packaging in Fedora. More details at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2008-July/msg00136.html Preliminary reading at http://

Re: [Ilugc] Fedora RPM Packaging 101: July 28th 2008

2008-07-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: Hello, On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: We are going to host a *public* IRC session in #fedora-india, freenode coming Monday at 3:00 PM and do a quick walk through on the basics of RPM packaging in Fedora. More details at I really wanted to learn this

[Ilugc] Intel switches from Ubuntu to Fedora for Mobile Linux

2008-07-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi http://www.heise-online.co.uk/open/Intel-switches-from-Ubuntu-to-Fedora-for-Mobile-Linux--/news/66 "Chip manufacturer Intel wants to use parts of the Fedora Project Linux distribution instead of Ubuntu as the basis for the second version of Moblin (Mobile & Internet Linux Project)." "

Re: [Ilugc] Intel switches from Ubuntu to Fedora for Mobile Linux

2008-07-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: Hello, On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hohndel pointed out that RPM packages include licence information; the DEB package management as used by Ubuntu and Debian doesn't have this information in the package files. Not wanting to start a flame-w

Re: [Ilugc] Fedora RPM Packaging 101: July 28th 2008

2008-07-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hello folks, We are going to host a *public* IRC session in #fedora-india, freenode coming Monday at 3:00 PM and do a quick walk through on the basics of RPM packaging in Fedora. Meeting logs at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2008-July/msg00166.html

Re: [Ilugc] Women in Free Software Community

2008-08-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
senthilraja P wrote: Open source needs strategic mindset.. women generally lack that strategic sense.. this is my humble opinion.. Statements such as these are good examples why. Who would want to participate among ignorant patronizing people who are not ashamed to paint broad brushes?

Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Live Using Linux

2008-08-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Mohan R wrote: Check out this link http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.live.com. Even Microsoft don't want to use their own Product. Microsoft uses a third party service - Akamai to cache and mirror their data and Akamai uses Linux. Rahul _

Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Live Using Linux

2008-08-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Prem Kurian Philip wrote: Check out this link http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.live.com. Even Microsoft don't want to use their own Product. As another poster has already pointed out, MS uses Akamai and netcraft is reporting information from the Akamai servers. Inciden

Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Live Using Linux

2008-08-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Prem Kurian Philip wrote: Check out this link http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.live.com. Even Microsoft don't want to use their own Product. As another poster has already pointed out, MS uses Akamai and netcraft is reporting information from the Akamai servers. Inciden

Re: [Ilugc] how to start with a new linux distro

2008-08-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Deepz wrote: Hi all, I want to develop a new linux distro(from any exiting distros), Where and how can i start? A older article based on Fedora 7 at http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/ Most of the content still applies. The process is better these days. Rahul _

Re: [Ilugc] how to start with a new linux distro

2008-08-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Deepz wrote: A older article based on Fedora 7 at http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/31/remixing-fedora-7/ Most of the content still applies. The process is better these days. Thanks for the link. If i want to modify the source code and make my own install cd,then how should i do that? Y

Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Girish Venkatachalam wrote: Now the main difference between Xen and VMWare is this: " Xen does not emulate the underlying hardware completely. This means that OSes have to be modified to run on top of Xen hypervisor. You can never run an OS directly over Xen. Whereas VMWare does full hardwa

Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial] Openmoko FreeRunner sales in India

2008-08-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
benjamin wrote: Anybody bought the phone? Can you share some feedback? The hardware is good however it is still something attractive to developers and not a model for consumers. You probably want to wait for a revision or two if you are interested in hacking it. Rahul __

Re: [Ilugc] "This Channel is not available in your country" - olympics

2008-08-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Mohan R wrote: All we need is to watch those 2 or 3 min clips. But why so many restrictions? copyrights, nbc/microsoft/silverlight, EuroVision's regional restrictions, Is Internet really a one global network? You have to be incredibly naive to believe it ever was completely. There has always

Re: [Ilugc] 2nd Indian SVN Full-Committer

2008-08-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Bharathi Subramanian wrote: Hi All, Our ILUGC Member Senthil Kumaran S (http://www.stylesen.org/) got the Full-Committer access to SVN code base (http://svn.collab.net/). He is the 51st committer world wide and 2nd Indian full-committer. Check http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/COMMITTERS. H

Re: [Ilugc] 2nd Indian SVN Full-Committer

2008-08-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
S.Ramaswamy wrote: Interestingly with a distributed model, the notion of commit access may not be that important at all. Nobody commits directly to the Linus git repository of the kernel except himself yet we have that model scaling incredibly well. Just a side note. This line of reasoning is

Re: [Ilugc] 2nd Indian SVN Full-Committer

2008-08-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On 26-Aug-08, at 11:15 PM, Sujith wrote: Yes, you are right that there a few final gatekeepers who manage the releases, but it encourages a model where your code will be reviewed by many people before finally being accepted. which doesnt happen in svn repo projects

Re: [Ilugc] 2nd Indian SVN Full-Committer

2008-08-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: In such a case, IMHO the candidate deserves our plaudits. Of course. Noone was debating that point. The merit of implementing this social norm using a technical barrier is of course debatable. Precisely Rahul ___ To

Re: [Ilugc] 2nd Indian SVN Full-Committer

2008-08-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Vamsee Kanakala wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: The merit of implementing this social norm using a technical barrier is of course debatable. Precisely Uh, I know we are deviating from the topic, but why would that be debatable? Social norms are different from technical barriers

Re: [Ilugc] 2nd Indian SVN Full-Committer

2008-08-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Vamsee Kanakala wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Social norms are different from technical barriers. Traditionally it has been tied together because systems like CVS and others that mimic it haven't offered a better model. Refer to the earlier links I have given to understand this better

Re: [Ilugc] Debian Lenny Live Becomes Reality

2008-08-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: Dear Friends, The Debian Live team is pleased to announce the first beta of Debian Lenny's Live images. That's great but you are hijacking threads to do the announcement in various lists which is not so great. Instead of replying to a existing mail with a unrelated t

Re: [Ilugc] Clicking Google Earth in ubuntu hangs my system

2008-08-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Bharath Kumar wrote: Dear all, I installed Google Earth in ubuntu. It went smoothly. But when I clicked the icon, the system lead me to the login prompt. Kindly mail me how to fix the bug. I am unable to mail you the supporting screenshot. This likely means your Xorg is crashing. Check the Xor

Re: [Ilugc] foss hardware workshop at Ooty

2008-08-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: Kenneth ji, How can I enable grammar check in OOo? I have not touched any MS thing for a long time, but I do miss the grammar check of MS Word. Could you please suggest something? http://www.languagetool.org/ You can also use Abiword if your needs are simple. Rahu

Re: [Ilugc] foss hardware workshop at Ooty

2008-08-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Sarad AV wrote: Yes, MS office seamlessly work with MS office file formats. MS office is built for that :-) One would think so. However there are innumerous reports of users using Openoffice.org to recover word files when MS Office could not. Here is one: http://www.oreillynet.com/databases

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Pg up and Pg down keystrokes patented by M$ ?

2008-09-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: Hi all, I read the following article in slashdot and was really shocked . Microsoft seems to have patented Pg up and Pg down keystrokes. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/31/2224217 How bad can its implications go ? :( Welcome to software

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Pg up and Pg down keystrokes patented by M$ ?

2008-09-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Arun Khan wrote: On Tuesday 02 Sep 2008, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/31/2224217 How bad can its implications go ? :( This is the pits. Quite surprising that IBM has not challenged it. Challenging a patent is way too expensive. Companies like I

Re: [Ilugc] Happy Birthday GNU

2008-09-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: a. There is not one --- there are many free alternatives to Unix. In fact, there are perhaps *no* non-free Unixes anymore! AIX, HP=UX and various proprietary forks of the BSD base etc. Proprietary Unix market has been dying for a long time but there is still

Re: [Ilugc] is Google, going to surprise with its new browser Google Chrome !..

2008-09-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Mano wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 03-Sep-08, at 1:57 PM, தியாகராஜன் wrote: Google is coming out with its new web browser Google chrome read this and weep: http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks

Re: [Ilugc] Need Support to Celebrate SFD

2008-09-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
sivaji j.g wrote: 3.Evolution Of FOSS (Video) A five minutes video to visualize the past, present and future of FOSS. Is this video available publicly? It's a demo stall to explain about the well established softwares from various domains in FOS

Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Fonts Workshop

2008-09-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Bharathi Subramanian wrote: ILUGC Fonts Workshop: = Date: Sat Sep 13th and Sun Sep 14th 2008 Time: 10AM to 4PM Place: NRC-FOSS, AU-KBC Research Center, MIT Campus (Just Opp to Chrompet Railway Station), Chrompet, Chennai. Speaker: Hiren, Swatantra Malayal

Re: [Ilugc] Re: Suitable OS for Intel Dot Station!

2008-09-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
benedict nicholas wrote: Dear Friends, Since I was the one who started this query, I would like to share the outcome. Thanks to all of you for recommending different OS. I have now successfully installed Intel Dot Station with fedora 9 and RHELv4.0 as well. There are other suitable OS. Iam pl

[Ilugc] Re: [PLUG] Kernel 2.6.27-rc breaks Intel PRO 1000 ethernet controllers

2008-09-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kaustubh Gadkari wrote: Hi, As an FYI for the Ubuntu, Fedora, Suse testers .. if you have an Intel PRO 1000 ethernet controller and use the e1000e driver, the kernel in use by these distributions in their new alpha/beta releases seems to break the EEPROM of the ethernet controller. http://bug

Re: [Ilugc] Canonical Not Great Contributor

2008-09-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Aanjhan R wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here is the article of Greg Kroah-Hartman, maintainer of the USB and other subsystems in the Linux kernel mentioning Canonical contribution to be 100 patches viz a viz 230 by Mandriva and only 270 by

Re: [Ilugc] Re: GNU/Linux primer

2008-09-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Parthan SR wrote: shirish wrote: Hi All, Parthan I liked the Rava analogy, is it ok to use it? Of course, CC BY-SA-NC ;) (But they might have been influenced/inspired by talks of Raman, Bharathi and Shakthi) I recommend dropping the "NC" clause. http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC Rah

[Ilugc] Cambridge (F-10) Beta release announcement

2008-09-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, Check it out. A remix christened "Omega" that includes more multimedia players and additional codecs by default is available at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-September/thread.html Rahul --- Begin Message --- Fedora 10 Beta: Cambridge's foundations are laid J

Re: [Ilugc] Error while installing rubygems-0.9.4 in fedora core 6

2008-10-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Dinesh Kumar wrote: reader, while installing rubygems-0.9.4 following error raises !!! hook /mnt/Downloads/ApplicationDownload/rubygems-0.9.4/./post-install.rb failed: private method `specification_version=' called for # May I suggest that you use a currently maintained relea

Re: [Ilugc] Error while installing rubygems-0.9.4 in fedora core 6

2008-10-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Dinesh Kumar wrote: I can't change the OS in server and also i don't have permission to change !! Any other suggestion plz ... If you are using it on a server, you should definitely get in touch with the administrator to upgrade. Running a server with a release that does not get security

Re: [Ilugc] Error while installing rubygems-0.9.4 in fedora core 6

2008-10-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Vamsee Kanakala wrote: Dinesh Kumar wrote: Good News i have installed the rubygems 1.3.0 but the problem rdoc is not installed !!! rdoc is part of the standard ruby distribution, so you'll have to depend on your OS' way of installing it. I haven't touched Fedora in ages, so I'm

Re: [Ilugc] OpenTV FSF deal is still in the dark.

2008-10-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
தியாகராஜன் wrote: Friends, I surfed though the net in finding the source code of gcco compiler. While gcco compiler is based on gcc , i learnt that the company (opentv) has obligation to release the source code under GPL norms. There were some queries which were been raised way back in 2002/03 i

Re: [Ilugc] Manpages on the web

2008-10-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Aanjhan R wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, On Wed, 08 Oct 2008, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=

Re: [Ilugc] Linux Package Dependencies

2008-10-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ashish Verma wrote: Hi, I do not have a net connection all the time, so I have configured local yum repos. I even tried rsyncing one of the livna repositories. I have all the packages listed in one of the Livna repos. However now that I am not connected to net, I tried to install some packages a

Re: [Ilugc] Linux Package Dependencies

2008-10-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ashish Verma wrote: Hi Rahul, I have already made this repo. However the issue is that still I get dependencies errors. Post your repository configuration files and the exact error you are getting if you want to specific help. If your local repository is complete there shouldn't be any issu

Re: [Ilugc] RMS and Cloud Computing

2008-10-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Bhuvaneswaran A wrote: I don't understand why he is missing the point that cloud computing is feasible more because of open source tools like Hadoop, MadReduce. The important aspect of cloud computing is that it is cheap. If user is worried about security, FREEDOM, or relying upon a third-party

Re: [Ilugc] Why gmail account gets more spam that any other account?

2008-10-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Sri Ramadoss M wrote: Hi, Why gmail account comparatively gets more spam and they too getting perfectly caught and put into the spam section compared to any other e-mail service provider? Since nobody except Google has the source, you would have to ask them. They probably considered that info

Re: [Ilugc] mp3 in a distro from India?

2008-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: Hi, We do know that most common distros that originates abroad do not include the necessary plugins for playing mp3 by default due to patent issues.. how about the condition as on date in India for distro that is created and circulated within India? Softwar

Re: [Ilugc] mp3 in a distro from India?

2008-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Sahasranaman MS wrote: Note however, that once you start distributing a variant, there is nothing controlling redistribution of it outside of India especially if it is out there in the Internet. So the question really would be, would you be held responsible? I wouldn't think so. Responsible to

Re: [Ilugc] mp3 in a distro from India?

2008-10-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
kish wrote: Rahul: Internet makes the transition from local to international laws, fuzzy. Could you please explain this. A few practical examples: Debian includes a mp3 decoder in main. For a non-profit (even though it is established in US), there isn't much of a risk. The most you can do

Re: [Ilugc] Help on SugarCRM

2008-10-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Monday 20 October 2008 01:58:11 pm Shrinivasan T wrote: My fried needs to use SugarCRM on is organization. We need some help on its usability . Do anyone use it or customize it in your organization? it is not opensource - tell him to go for something else http:/

Re: [Ilugc] Help on SugarCRM

2008-10-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Monday 20 October 2008 03:16:47 pm Rahul Sundaram wrote: it is not opensource - tell him to go for something else http://www.sugarforge.org/content/open-source/. It is under GPLv3. yes - a bogus open source product - check M Tieman's blog If you are goi

Re: [Ilugc] A simple script to clean up ( remove ) a kernel

2008-10-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Raja Subramanian wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Satish Eerpini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was removing the old kernel files ... so i wrote this simple script which provided the kernel version removes all the concerned files from the system , ... I have tested this only on Fedora and

Re: [Ilugc] A simple script to clean up ( remove ) a kernel

2008-10-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
sky knight wrote: --- On Mon, 10/20/08, Rahul Sundaram wrote: From: Rahul Sundaram Subject: Re: [Ilugc] A simple script to clean up ( remove ) a kernel To: "ILUG-C" Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 2:26 PM>A script to do this manually breaks package management badly and should n

Re: [Ilugc] A simple script to clean up ( remove ) a kernel

2008-10-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
sky knight wrote: --- On Mon, 10/20/08, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Im using Fedora 9 now, Im using 2.6.26 kernel with some patches applied to it, will it disturb the package manager and if so how can i clear it? --- If you compiled from source, there is no clean way to uninstall it. It won&#

Re: [Ilugc] Mandriva 2009 DVD for i586 and x86-64 available

2008-10-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Shrinivasan T wrote: 2008/10/21 LinuXpert Academy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, If anyone in this list is interested in getting the latest Mandriva 2009 Free edition for i586 / x86-64 in DVDs, pl. write to me offlist. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Baskar LinuXpert Systems Are the updates from repositor

[Ilugc] Fedora 9 valued at $10.8B

2008-10-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, A report from Linux Foundation... http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS5325969099.html "Have you got some loose change in your pocket, and dreams of building a better operating system? It would take about 25 years, nearly 60,000 developer-years, and $10.8B to re-create a distribution like Fedor

Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)

2008-10-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Sarad AV wrote: From: Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whether you like it or not astrology is very similar to proprietary software in its dependence on similar validation techniques. Wow! would you like to prove it using math logic? You can't prove nonsense with logic, much less

[Ilugc] Fedora 10 Snapshot 3

2008-10-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, This is the last snapshot release before the Fedora 10 preview. The official announcement is at: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-October/msg00010.html A blog I ran into about new features: http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/fedora-10-a-detailed-discussio

Re: [Ilugc] yum conflicts

2008-10-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ashish Verma wrote: hi Mohan, that was actually a solution the issue, however I am not sure if it was trying to install the same package. The error indicated that a file to be installed by 1 package was conflicting with a file provided by another package. Assuming you are only using the offici

Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)

2008-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Mano wrote: Sorry, did not notice the original post was forked here. Hence reposting my response here: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Sarad AV wrote: Wow! would you like to prove it using math logic? You can't prove nonsense with logic, much less math logic.

Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)

2008-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
தியாகராஜன் wrote: In all counts , Astrology is a science. Nope. http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/astrology.html Rahul ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iit

Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)

2008-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
தியாகராஜன் wrote: Hello, http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/astrology.html My entire description about astrology differs to that of what astrology , which is mentioned in the above document.To the extend which is mentioned in the document, it says astrology as barely a superficial predictin

Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)

2008-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2008 06:02:00 am Rahul Sundaram wrote: how about belief in God? Are scientists allowed to believe in something that is not proven to exist? Only as a hypothesis with a very low to non existent probability. Rahul

Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)

2008-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2008 04:22:18 am Rahul Sundaram wrote: தியாகராஜன் wrote: In all counts , Astrology is a science. Nope. http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/astrology.html what does this prove? The only consistent thing about science is that every now and

Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)

2008-10-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
தியாகராஜன் wrote: IMO, I do have reservations in beleif's. Comparing Modern day science and the Vedic Astrology which spans a vast amount of time. It was indeed blended with lot of stories which are away from the facts to make the subject interesting for the lay men. In, other words - half ba

Re: [Ilugc] Mukta software and the scientific method (Was Re: Scientific REsearch ...)

2008-10-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Mano wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:20 AM, Rahul Sundaram http://ckraju.net/IndianCalculus/book_details.htm#Part%20I Ramanujan never knew and was actually bemused by the western notion of 'proof'. However, eventually he had to change to suit the establishment - which was muc

[Ilugc] Announcing the Fedora Sugar Spin

2008-10-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, OLPC Project uses a derivative of Fedora as the operating system for it's XO laptops. One of the unique features of these laptops, is an environment called Sugar developed as a collaboration between Red Hat and other developers and now being maintained by Sugarlabs, an independent non-pro

[Ilugc] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Announced

2008-11-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, We are organizing a FUDCon this year as part of the FOSS.in conference in Bangalore, India. http://foss.in/news/fudconfossin2008.html "FOSS.IN/2008 is host to FUDCon. With a large number of Fedora developers in the country a lot of whom will be at FOSS.IN/2008 we though it would be a great

[Ilugc] Fedora Classroom

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi There was a number of IRC sessions on various topics related to Free software and Fedora. The IRC logs have now been published. Feel free to use them if you did not find the time to participation in real time. This is planned to continue for the next month as well. https://fedoraproject.

Re: [Ilugc] out of frequency error

2008-11-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Mano wrote: It used to be said setting wrong values for the monitor sync rates is a sure fire way to fry it up!! Is it not true? Not any more. This was a relatively common issue with old monitors, especially the bad ones. Any recent one is less brain damaged. Rahul _

Re: [Ilugc] 'application' in the panel

2008-11-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
பத்மநாதன் wrote: Dear LUGs, One new linux user deleted 'application', 'places', 'system' from panel in ubuntu 8.10. this happened at erode Linux introduction day. How can retrieve it? It is called the "Menu Bar" in Add to Panel dialog you get when you right click on the pa

[Ilugc] Fedora 10 Released

2008-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Announcement: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2008-November/msg00013.html Release notes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_for_F10 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2008-November/msg00013.html Some reviews: http://linuxformat.co.uk/mod

Re: [Ilugc] gspca install error... :(

2008-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kunchana Mathota Arachchi wrote: semaphore.h is not in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-9/include. I think this might be the prob.. does any one know how to install this driver kernel? You shouldn't need to do this. 2.6.27 already has the gpsca driver merged in the upstream kernel. If you are

[Ilugc] Would you like to name Fedora 11?

2008-12-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Follow the announcement: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg1.html Name suggestions at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_11 You need a Fedora account to get edit access to the wiki. It takes only a couple of minutes to sign up

Re: [Ilugc] Employee Agreement of a FOSS company

2008-12-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: Hi, While the sum of money is accumulated with the investor, the sum of knowledge in the form individuals is extremely difficult to unite for wide range of reasons, which the investors exploit (for individuals involved seldom come together against investors'

Re: [Ilugc] Employee Agreement of a FOSS company

2008-12-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: first define what is a 'FOSS company'? The term is unclear. A company that opensources all the code it produces? Then neither the employer nor the employee get anything out of the code in terms of IPR. But such a company will not last for more than 5 minutes. Origin

Re: [Ilugc] Employee Agreement of a FOSS company

2008-12-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Wednesday 03 Dec 2008 3:53:20 pm Rahul Sundaram wrote: first define what is a 'FOSS company'? The term is unclear. A company that opensources all the code it produces? Then neither the employer nor the employee get anything out of the code in terms of IPR.

Re: [Ilugc] Employee Agreement of a FOSS company

2008-12-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: If FOSS company is not the right word, What should then we name any kind of establishment/ setup that might come out of such initiatives? FOSS based organizations, perhaps. Rahul ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAI

Re: [Ilugc] Employee Agreement of a FOSS company

2008-12-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Wednesday 03 Dec 2008 5:54:02 pm Rahul Sundaram wrote: can you confirm that all code produced by Red Hat is opensourced? If so, obviously neither the programmer or the company directly gets money out of it. Let's assume that is true let us not assume - yes

Re: [Ilugc] Employee Agreement of a FOSS company

2008-12-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Wednesday 03 Dec 2008 6:17:48 pm Rahul Sundaram wrote: ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: If FOSS company is not the right word, What should then we name any kind of establishment/ setup that might come out of such initiatives? FOSS based organizations, perhaps

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