[Ilugc] Pls help in configuring ZTE CDMA Tech USB Datacard(Modem) on Mandriva: urgent fo personal u

2008-06-29 Thread swapan karmakar
hi i am trying to set up internet connection thru BSNL's new ZTE EVDO CDMA Tech Modem (USB data card). i am using Mandriva 2007 (kernel 2.6.22-9) the probelm is that when i see in network centre in control centre, it lists the device but with configure and connect option disabled. also in hardw

[Ilugc] "பயனரின் பார ்வையில் - உபுண்ட ு"

2008-06-29 Thread Sri Ramadoss M
வணக்கம், ஒரு நூறு நாட்களில் உபுண்டு பற்றிய அறிமுகப் புத்தகம் இயற்றி பதிப்பிக்கலாமா? (70-90 பக்கம் + உபுண்டு டிவிடி) பாடங்கள் இயற்ற தன்னார்வலர்கள் தேவை... "பயனரின் பார்வையில் - உபுண்டு" புத்தகத்தின் தலைப்பு. பங்களிக்க விருப்பமுள்ளோர் தெரிவித்தால் தொடர்ந்து மேற்கொள்ள வேண்டிய நடவடிக்கைகள் பற்றி ஆ

Re: [Ilugc] Pls help in configuring ZTE CDMA Tech USB Datacard(Modem) on Mandriva: urgent fo personal u

2008-06-29 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, swapan karmakar wrote: > i am trying to set up internet connection thru BSNL's new ZTE EVDO > CDMA Tech Modem (USB data card). i am using Mandriva 2007 (kernel > 2.6.22-9) This may be a usbmodem device similar to that used by Reliance and Tata-Indicomm. The following U

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Prashanth Mohan
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 28-Jun-08, at 9:11 PM, Raman.P wrote: > >>> populates your RAM with most of the basics. With that >>> foundation you >>> can leverage the internet to solve bigger problems. >>> >> Unfortunately in todays education

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Prashanth Mohan wrote: > One of the reasons for this is that most of the universities in India > are Teaching Institutions rather than Research Institutions. Really? I thought they were assembly lines for creating certificate holders! ;-) The confrontation between teaching a

Re: [Ilugc] Pls help in configuring ZTE CDMA Tech USB Datacard(Modem) on Mandriva: urgent fo personal u

2008-06-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 29-Jun-08, at 12:32 PM, swapan karmakar wrote: tail -f var/log/messages , reports errors instead--there is no listing of usb port to which this usb modem is attached. looks like this modem is not linux compatible - try with knoppix live cd and see if it is detected. I find the tataindic

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Sri Ramadoss M
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Prashanth Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves > > One of the reasons for this is that most of the universities in India > are Teaching Institutions rather than Research Institutions. By > steering the Indian academi

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Prashanth Mohan
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The confrontation between teaching and research is (IMNSHO) entirely > artificial. I don't think there is a confrontation at all. I was merely responding to KG's comment that the emphasis is on training students to

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, We are seriously OT here! On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Sri Ramadoss M wrote: > I have seen lot of talents, among my friends who would have been great > people in research etc., but unfortunately research is confined and > recognized only in one language, vastly :-( I have seen good research using

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Sri Ramadoss M
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > We are seriously OT here! > I agree its a response to a OT and hence is a OT. :-) -- Regards, Sri Ramadoss M ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 29-Jun-08, at 7:51 PM, Prashanth Mohan wrote: The confrontation between teaching and research is (IMNSHO) entirely artificial. I don't think there is a confrontation at all. I was merely responding to KG's comment that the emphasis is on training students to use/develop with a tool rather

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 29-Jun-08, at 7:56 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: Having taught American students who struggle to express simple logical statements in English (American) and Bengali students who have exactly the same difficulties --- I can assure you that it is the lack of ability to think logically (in th

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 29-Jun-08, at 8:14 PM, Sri Ramadoss M wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, We are seriously OT here! I agree its a response to a OT and hence is a OT. :-) it is not at all OT - just a reflection of the difference between

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Ashok Gautham J.
Kumar Appiah who is the latest Deb Developer from Chennai is also a EEE. Most legends of the day were EEE grads too. CS and IT are relatively new. It takes passion. Nothing more, nothing less -- Be yourself everyday, every way ___ To unsubscribe, email

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Sri Ramadoss M
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > this is my experience also - specifically how many people who come from > tamil medium (substitute any other Indian language) can write a coherent > page of matter in their mother tongue? I have taught many people wh

RE: [Ilugc] Pls help in configuring ZTE CDMA Tech USB Datacard(Modem) on Mandriva: urgent fo persona

2008-06-29 Thread swapan karmakar
it works fine with Ubuntu 8why i wanted it on Mandriva is the reason that this OS is very user friendly for my friends A Writer & Contributor For;LinuxForYou Magazine, &www.redhatmagazine.com.03192236349/09933224464 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subj

RE: [Ilugc] Pls help in configuring ZTE CDMA Tech USB Datacard(Modem) on Mandriva: urgent fo persona

2008-06-29 Thread swapan karmakar
it works fine with Ubuntu 8why i wanted it on Mandriva is the reason that this OS is very user friendly for my friends A Writer & Contributor For;LinuxForYou Magazine, &www.redhatmagazine.com.03192236349/09933224464 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subj

RE: [Ilugc] Pls help in configuring ZTE CDMA Tech USB Datacard(Modem) on Mandriva: urgent fo persona

2008-06-29 Thread swapan karmakar
it works fine with Ubuntu 8why i wanted it on Mandriva is the reason that this OS is very user friendly for my friends A Writer & Contributor For;LinuxForYou Magazine, &www.redhatmagazine.com.03192236349/09933224464 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subj

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Arun Tejasvi Chaganty
> It depends on the requirements. I would look for solid computer science > fundamentals which includes a very good knowledge of data structures, > different programming paradigms, the ability to analyse space and time order > complexities etc. Self-taught programmers may become very good at some

[Ilugc] ILUGC in wikipedia

2008-06-29 Thread Anoop John
Hi, I searched for ILUGC in wikipedia and could not find it. I went ahead and created a stub article. You can access the this link and make modifications http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai_lug Since it is only a stub article the article is marked for deletion. If we could bring up content and

[Ilugc] Re: "பயனரின் பா ர்வையில் - உபுண் டு"

2008-06-29 Thread Sri Ramadoss M
2008/6/29 Sri Ramadoss M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > (70-90 பக்கம் + உபுண்டு டிவிடி) > > பாடங்கள் இயற்ற தன்னார்வலர்கள் தேவை... > > We are looking for to people who have prior experience in professionally re-mastering a distribution for this purpose. anyone? relevant mailing list: http://ubuntu-tam

[Ilugc] Re: "பயனரின் பா ர்வையில் - உபுண் டு"

2008-06-29 Thread Sri Ramadoss M
2008/6/30 Sri Ramadoss M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2008/6/29 Sri Ramadoss M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> (70-90 பக்கம் + உபுண்டு டிவிடி) >> >> பாடங்கள் இயற்ற தன்னார்வலர்கள் தேவை... >> >> > > We are looking for to people who have prior experience in professionally > re-mastering a distribution for t

Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC in wikipedia

2008-06-29 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 30 Jun 2008, Anoop John wrote: > Hi, > > I searched for ILUGC in wikipedia and could not find it. I went ahead > and created a stub article. You can access the this link and make > modifications > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai_lug Do you envision the content to be different from

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 29-Jun-08, at 9:11 PM, Sri Ramadoss M wrote: this is my experience also - specifically how many people who come from tamil medium (substitute any other Indian language) can write a coherent page of matter in their mother tongue? I have taught many people whose written english was misera

Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC in wikipedia

2008-06-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 30-Jun-08, at 12:24 AM, Anoop John wrote: I searched for ILUGC in wikipedia and could not find it. I went ahead and created a stub article. You can access the this link and make modifications http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai_lug wikipedia is not meant for advertisement - please remove

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Sri Ramadoss M
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > not true - if they have talent they will succeed - I know hundreds of > europeans whose mother tongue is not english and many Indians whose mother > tongue is not english and who have succeeded. Dont forget, germans

[Ilugc] to start iilugc in sri krishna college of engg & tech coimbatore

2008-06-29 Thread sathis kumar
hai i am sathis kumar systems manager for sri krishna college of engg & tech , coimbatore. our college interested in using open source software. Now we are in the process of setting up separate open source lab and open source wireless lab. our management and principal intrested to start INDIAN

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Mano
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Sri Ramadoss M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> not true - if they have talent they will succeed - I know hundreds of >> europeans whose mother tongue is not english and many Indians

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 30 Jun 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On 29-Jun-08, at 9:11 PM, Sri Ramadoss M wrote: > >> this is my experience also - specifically how many people who come > >> from > >> tamil medium (substitute any other Indian language) can write a > >> coherent > >> page of matter in their mother

Re: [Ilugc] mysql-php server access denied

2008-06-29 Thread Suresh Kumar
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Arun Velusamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> when i try connecting the mysql server on server-2 ( 192.168.8.200) > from > >> my > >> server-1 (192.168.1.227) > >> i get the following error > >> > >> *Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to MySQL server on

Re: [Ilugc] mysql-php server access denied

2008-06-29 Thread Suresh Kumar
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Suresh Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Arun Velusamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> when i try connecting the mysql server on server-2 ( 192.168.8.200) >> from >> >> my >> >> server-1 (192.168.1.227) >> >> i ge

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
On 6/29/08, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > it is not at all OT - just a reflection of the difference between FOSS > which is the home of the self taught type, and proprietary which is the home > of the other type. > > is it because FOSS 'teachers' never bothered or didn't have

Re: [Ilugc] mysql-php server access denied

2008-06-29 Thread Suresh Kumar
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Ravi Jaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Suresh Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi > > i have 2 linux servers, both of them are suse linux > > in one server (server-1 -192.168.1.227 ) i have the php-apache files > > and in

Re: [Ilugc] to start iilugc in sri krishna college of engg & tech coimbatore

2008-06-29 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
On 6/30/08, sathis kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hai >i am sathis kumar systems manager for sri krishna college of engg & > tech > , coimbatore. our college interested in using open source software. Now we > are in the process of setting up separate open source lab and open source > wir

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 30-Jun-08, at 10:30 AM, Mano wrote: thats inspiring.. :-) Jeyakesavan Veerasamy, a big name in CS research now, was from a tamil medium school. During the first few months in college he was always found with a speak english in 30 days kind of book - without a care to the fun the rest of u

Re: [Ilugc] to start iilugc in sri krishna college of engg & tech coimbatore

2008-06-29 Thread sky knight
--- On Sun, 6/29/08, sathis kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: sathis kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Ilugc] to start iilugc in sri krishna college of engg & tech coimbatore To: ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 11:27 PM hai i am sathis kumar systems manager for sri k

Re: Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees

2008-06-29 Thread Mahalingam Subramaniam
Mr. Ramadoss Hats off to you. Rewards & Regards to you s.mahalingam -- Original Message -- From: "Sri Ramadoss M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ILUG-C Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:47:33 +0530 Subject: Re: [Ilugc] [OT] self taught programmers vs programmers with degrees On Mon