Re: [Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (BG)

2008-12-15 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Sivakumar Gopalan wrote: > Is there a way to start a job in background in one > terminal and bring it back to foreground in a different > Terminal ? Use "dtach" or "detachtty". For more general use learn to use screen. By the way, normally backgrounded jobs are not e

[Ilugc] Quasar - Accounting Package

2008-12-15 Thread ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
இங்கே யாராச்சும் Quasar பயன்படுத்திப் பாரத்திருக்கீங்களா? http://www.linuxcanada.com/quasar.shtml -- ஆமாச்சு ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/m

RE: [Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (BG)

2008-12-15 Thread Sivakumar Gopalan
Is there a way to start a job in background in one terminal and bring it back to foreground in a different Terminal ? Rgds, Siva. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://ww

[Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (BG)

2008-12-15 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
One Day One GNU/Linux Command = bg -- Place a job in BackGround Summary: Normally user can run a job in background, by adding & at end of the command (ex: sleep 10 &). bg is a shell command. It is used to move a job from foreground to the background, as if it had

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Parthan SR
ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: Well.. I just say at this point of time, in my experience, proprietary people understand a "User" better than FOSS people... I always thought it's "users" of proprietary software who puts themselves into the shoes of the s/w maker instead of the s/w makes

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
>> >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Arun Khan >> >> wrote: >> > >> > Being a member of several LUG lists, I will say that the quality of >> > help from FOSS/Linux mailings lists/forums is equal or better than >> > the paid support especially when users have done some home work and >> > then sou

Re: [Ilugc] Dec Month ILUGC Meet

2008-12-15 Thread Raman.P
--- On Mon, 15/12/08, Ashok Gautham wrote: > > We still won't have people like Kapil ji, Raman and > Bharathi. We will just > be a bunch of enthusiastic students who keep coming in in > cycles. We > will keep reinventing the wheel. Also ILUGC is well > established. So you > will get better speak

Re: [Ilugc][OT] Dec Month ILUGC Meet

2008-12-15 Thread Venkatraman S
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Vamsee Kanakala wrote: > Venkatraman S wrote: > >> -V- >> >> > > Ahem. C'mon man. Now I have to think of a new sig? :) > > > V. > now ..dont tell me that you wanna poll/online-petition and ask ppl to vote (with 49-0)as to whose is cooler...and then stare u at def

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 15 Dec 2008, ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Arun Khan > >> wrote: > > > > Being a member of several LUG lists, I will say that the quality of > > help from FOSS/Linux mailings lists/forums is equal or better than > > the paid support especiall

Re: [Ilugc][OT] Dec Month ILUGC Meet

2008-12-15 Thread Vamsee Kanakala
Venkatraman S wrote: -V- Ahem. C'mon man. Now I have to think of a new sig? :) V. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Arun Khan wrote: > Being a member of several LUG lists, I will say that the quality of help > from FOSS/Linux mailings lists/forums is equal or better than the paid > support especially when users have done some home work and then sought > help. > Well.. I jus

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 15 Dec 2008, ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Arun Khan wrote: > >> Isn't there a lesson in it? What a "User" expect is some one who > >> sits and explains the way he has to use the software or a proper > >> answer. > > > > Then they should be read

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 15 Dec 2008 5:07:30 pm Sudharshan S wrote: > As for LUG meets, ask your parents to send a note to the college exempting > you from classes on second saturdays. If it doesn't get approved by the > HOD. Go to the Principal. If still not approved bunk the classes, give > proxies, get an On D

Re: [Ilugc] Dec Month ILUGC Meet

2008-12-15 Thread Parthan SR
Ashok Gautham wrote: We still won't have people like Kapil ji, Raman and Bharathi. Why not? Did they tell you they won't come? As well as, am sure a lot of others would come, even if not these 3. We will just be a bunch of enthusiastic students who keep coming in in cycles. Well, that is what a

[Ilugc] Workshop on Open Source RDBMS Tools on 18th Dec '08

2008-12-15 Thread sivaji j.g
Hi ilugc This is to inform you that Department of Computer Applications and Technology, Jaya Engineering College is organizing an One day workshop on "Open Source RDBMS Tools" date 18th December 2008, this workshop is intended for faculties . For further details -- ht

Re: [Ilugc] Resolution problem with Arch Linux and Xfce

2008-12-15 Thread Bhargav Prasanna
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Ashok Gautham wrote: > /me points out that it must be exec xfce4-session in .xinitrc and not > startxfce4. Awrite Ashok. The CD is currently with Anish. I will surely try and do an 'exec xfce4-session'.. :) -- Sin Cera, Bhargav Prasanna _

Re: [Ilugc] Dec Month ILUGC Meet

2008-12-15 Thread Aanjhan R
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Ashok Gautham wrote: > I strongly believe that India is _the_nation_. I am not planning to do > my PG in any other land. We have everything that one needs, and > just lack takers. I am tugging along as many as I can to provide > India with really inspired and dedic

Re: [Ilugc] Dec Month ILUGC Meet

2008-12-15 Thread Venkatraman S
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Ashok Gautham wrote: > @Venkatraman.S: > My college does not offer a PG. And I missed IIT once (my JEE. I really > flopped in it. I am not missing it once more). > > Not quite sure whether ppl would be interested in your personal failures and its glorification in

Re: [Ilugc] Dec Month ILUGC Meet

2008-12-15 Thread Ashok Gautham
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Parthan SR wrote: > > For students communities there are few alternative solutions to this, > [1] Convince your college and get the Saturdays when LUG meets are there as half working days. Hmmm.. Am not too optimistic about this. [2] Convince your college and o

Re: [Ilugc] Dec Month ILUGC Meet

2008-12-15 Thread Venkatraman S
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Ashok Gautham wrote: > I strongly believe that India is _the_nation_. I am not planning to do > my PG in any other land. We have everything that one needs, and > just lack takers. I am tugging along as many as I can to provide > India with really inspired and dedic

Re: [Ilugc] Dec Month ILUGC Meet

2008-12-15 Thread Ashok Gautham
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Sunday 14 Dec 2008 2:37:00 pm Ashok Gautham wrote: > > I would miss out on a chance to bunk during critical times like my > > upcoming GATE in Feb > > GATE is for going to foreign? Then we do not need you. I strongly believe that Ind

Re: [Ilugc] Resolution problem with Arch Linux and Xfce

2008-12-15 Thread Ashok Gautham
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Bhargav Prasanna wrote: > > After a lot of speculation, i went for Xfce.. As i had used it before > (in Xubuntu), i thought i'd feel comfortable.. > Dint work.. so i edited the second line of the .xinitrc file.. then > gave 'startxfce4' at the prompt.. > It worked

Re: [Ilugc] C in Vista

2008-12-15 Thread Krishna
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Kannan wrote: > Any one help me i am vista OS.i find a problem that Borland C++ is > working in half screen mode only. > pls tell the reason for that.pls tell the solution. if you are newbie in using borland, I would suggest Dev C++ http://www.bloodshed

Re: [Ilugc] C in Vista

2008-12-15 Thread sivaji j.g
Any one help me i am vista OS. we are all GNU/Linux OS :P i find a problem that Borland C++ is > working in half screen mode only. > pls tell the reason for that.pls tell the solution. hit alt+enter key or ctrl+enter key HTH > > -- Thanks a lot -

Re: [Ilugc] fedora9 - cannot bring laptop out of sleep after closing lid

2008-12-15 Thread Bhargav Prasanna
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Ashish Verma wrote: > I am unable to bring my laptop out of sleep after I reopen the lid. I have > to restart the system after I close and open the lid. I tried the steps in > the below URL, but it did not help. > > http://www.linux.com/articles/54610 > The easiest and best o

Re: [Ilugc] Resolution problem with Arch Linux and Xfce

2008-12-15 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 04:16:06PM +0530, Bhargav Prasanna wrote: > lscpi output on Ubuntu: > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation > 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) > > I guess it doesn't matter whether i run Ubuntu or Arch. The output > wil

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Arun Khan wrote: >> Isn't there a lesson in it? What a "User" expect is some one who sits >> and explains the way he has to use the software or a proper answer. > > Then they should be ready to pay some fee for hand holding. IMO, having > the same expectation from

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 15 Dec 2008, Bhargav Prasanna wrote: > > I couldn't agree more.. Colleges have turned into full time > 'finishing' schools for IT companies.. Wow! It is not so in the Mumbai area. I have interviewed several MCA/B. Tech/B. E. types. What they know - even on the proprietary platform

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Shashwath T.R.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:23 PM, ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: > Isn't there a lesson in it? What a "User" expect is some one who sits > and explains the way he has to use the software or a proper answer. > > not answers like google yourself first.. its there you take it.. > > and propriet

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 15 Dec 2008, ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: > > Isn't there a lesson in it? What a "User" expect is some one who sits > and explains the way he has to use the software or a proper answer. Then they should be ready to pay some fee for hand holding. IMO, having the same expectatio

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Bhargav Prasanna wrote: >> I have come to your college, approached you Prici for a FOSS event, a >> year back, (gave them even two Ubuntu CDs), and that was a memorable >> visit, in the sense that the ears were shut for FOSS. > > ha ha.. be glad that she didn't ins

Re: [Ilugc] fedora9 - cannot bring laptop out of sleep after closing lid

2008-12-15 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Ashish Verma wrote: > I am unable to bring my laptop out of sleep after I reopen the lid. I have > to restart the system after I close and open the lid. I tried the steps in > the below URL, but it did not help. > > http://www.linux.com/articles/54610 This is a very ol

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Bhargav Prasanna wrote: > Happens everywhere.. Microsoft has brain-washed users so much!! Linux, > though next in popularity only to windows (unfortunately) is less > known than a Mac OS is!! > And people who use Linux are written off as geeks/nerds (as is the > ca

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread varadarajan narayanan
> friends/foes (and myself) don't black mail you threatening to show this email > to whoever *she* refers to and stay out of trouble. Blackmail ? You did not read rest of the story about the US teacher and what happened to her ! One FOSS company in Newzealand offered $1 for revelaing the name

Re: [Ilugc] fedora9 - cannot bring laptop out of sleep after closing lid

2008-12-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 15 Dec 2008, Ashish Verma wrote: > Hi, > > I am unable to bring my laptop out of sleep after I reopen the lid. I > have to restart the system after I close and open the lid. I tried > the steps in the below URL, but it did not help. Check your configuration. It may be set to "hibernate"

Re: [Ilugc] Resolution problem with Arch Linux and Xfce

2008-12-15 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Bhargav Prasanna wrote: > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation > 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) > > I guess it doesn't matter whether i run Ubuntu or Arch. The output > will be same right? Indeed. This Intel chips

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Sudharshan S
On Monday 15 December 2008 16:21:15 Bhargav Prasanna babbled: > > I have come to your college, approached you Prici for a FOSS event, a > > year back, (gave them even two Ubuntu CDs), and that was a memorable > > visit, in the sense that the ears were shut for FOSS. > > ha ha.. be glad that she did

[Ilugc] fedora9 - cannot bring laptop out of sleep after closing lid

2008-12-15 Thread Ashish Verma
Hi, I am unable to bring my laptop out of sleep after I reopen the lid. I have to restart the system after I close and open the lid. I tried the steps in the below URL, but it did not help. http://www.linux.com/articles/54610 If however, the laptop sleeps due to long inactivity, I can bring it b

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Bhargav Prasanna
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:12 PM, ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M > College want all students to get passed, pack them for Campus > interview, surrender them to Proprietary giants, and get rated into > Top 10 in A C Nielson - Sun TV survey or Outlook Survey ;-) > > And it is understandable that Teac

Re: [Ilugc] Resolution problem with Arch Linux and Xfce

2008-12-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Bhargav Prasanna wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: Please read the help that has been posted. Kumar asked you to provide the output of lspci. That will help people on the list who want to help you. I'm not running Arch anymore. So i guess i can't do a lscpi.

Re: [Ilugc] Resolution problem with Arch Linux and Xfce

2008-12-15 Thread Bhargav Prasanna
lscpi output on Ubuntu: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) I guess it doesn't matter whether i run Ubuntu or Arch. The output will be same right? -- Sin Cera, Bhargav Prasanna __

Re: [Ilugc] Resolution problem with Arch Linux and Xfce

2008-12-15 Thread Bhargav Prasanna
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: > Please read the help that has been posted. Kumar asked you to provide > the output of lspci. That will help people on the list who want to > help you. I'm not running Arch anymore. So i guess i can't do a lscpi.. I've shifted back t

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Bhargav Prasanna wrote: > Gosh! this is really really sad.. I thought teachers in the states > were better informed than their colleagues o'er here.. This is > stupidity.. The teacher has probably never tried googling > "open-source" or "software freedom" or even

Re: [Ilugc] Resolution problem with Arch Linux and Xfce

2008-12-15 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Bhargav Prasanna wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Kumar Appaiah > wrote: > > Could you please tell me what video adapter you have? I guess setting > > the right one in xorg.conf might solve your problems. Also, I suspect > > even "vesa" should work, though I a

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread varadarajan narayanan
> > Happens everywhere.. Microsoft has brain-washed users so much!! Linux, Actually the problem is much more serious. It is not trivial by any standards. FOSS is not a fad or fashion just "cool". http://bangalore.gnu.org.in/index.php/Campaigns:VTU-MS_Curriculum_tie_up cheers Varadarajan __

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Bhargav Prasanna
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Arun Khan wrote: > Please get into the habit of trimming your messages to include relevant > excerpts only. Will do that hereafter.. > Is it not possible conduct the meets after 16.30 hours? At most you > will need only one room to be kept open. We can try an

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Bhargav Prasanna
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM, sugantha wrote: > Hey... Thats for the same reason I could'nt ask my college too. Once in a > project review session one of the staff asked " what operating system are > you going to use"... I said Fedora Linux 8... She looked baffled, then > smirked and turned to

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 15 Dec 2008, Bhargav Prasanna wrote: Please get into the habit of trimming your messages to include relevant excerpts only. > > Conducting meetings on saturdays in our college (be it any saturday > of the month) is out of the question.. Its because the college works > 8.30 to 16.30 on

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread sugantha
>Yea.. My college is under Anna University.. You mean my HoD? Hell.. > >People in my department don't even know that Linux has GUI!! How do > >you expect them to give me permission? One teacher even asked me > >whether i did not know the straight route to touch my nose with my > >hand just becau

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread Bhargav Prasanna
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:07 PM, varadarajan narayanan wrote: > > hi ! > > Dont worry ! It is same all over ! You are not alone ! > > http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2232488/teacher-slams-linux > > We only have to try harder ! > > cheers > > Varadarajan Gosh! this is really really sad.. I thoug

Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUC Meet on Saturday

2008-12-15 Thread varadarajan narayanan
> you're approaching.. Staff in my department (EEE) don't know Linux has > GUI.. Whats even worse is that there are many teachers in IT and CSE > departments hate Linux (for some reason).. Ashok has even told me > about a teacher explaining to his class "Why Windows is the world's > best OS" during

Re: [Ilugc] C in Vista

2008-12-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 15 Dec 2008, swamynathan wrote: > NOTE :this is because many people (specially students) think that > ilugc is a computer science organization , possibly because of some > mis-understanding This must imply that the chaps you post such questions do not follow any of the discussions that

Re: [Ilugc] C in Vista

2008-12-15 Thread Arun Khan
On Monday 15 Dec 2008, Kannan wrote: > Any one help me i am vista OS.i find a problem that Borland > C++ is working in half screen mode only. > pls tell the reason for that.pls tell the solution. err, this is a FOSS/Linux list; how is your question related to either FOSS/Linux? I am sur

Re: [Ilugc] C in Vista

2008-12-15 Thread swamynathan
NOTE :this is because many people (specially students) think that ilugc is a computer science organization , possibly because of some mis-understanding On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Mehul Ved wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Kannan wrote: > > Any one help me i am vista OS.i

Re: [Ilugc] C in Vista

2008-12-15 Thread Mehul Ved
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Kannan wrote: > Any one help me i am vista OS.i find a problem that Borland C++ is > working in half screen mode only. > pls tell the reason for that.pls tell the solution. This is not related to Linux in any way. It's not related to Open Source either. A

[Ilugc] [Help] Web Proxy Setup

2008-12-15 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
Dear All, If anybody willing help in setting up a Squid Proxy for an Orphanage in Karapakkam (around 75KM in ECR), Plz mail back to me with the suitable time or date information. Bye :) -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.