[Ietf-dkim] Re: The "back scatter" problem

2025-01-25 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Michael Thomas wrote in : |Can somebody explain to me why the "back scatter" problem is related to |DKIM of any version? No. Except that the recommendation to first try the signature related to the first address in From: is a bit misleading if there is not a single signature to match against t

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-25 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message <78e99534-7b33-4e26-91c6-206035a91...@mtcc.com>, Michael Thomas writes >I'm sorry can you give some examples of the "exotic changes to existing >fields"? I'm drawing a blank on why you'd need to change existing fields >at all vs introduc

[Ietf-dkim] Re: The "back scatter" problem

2025-01-25 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message , Michael Thomas writes >Can somebody explain to me why the "back scatter" problem is related to >DKIM of any version? because our DKIM2 proposal fixes it if only all your questions were so straightforward to answer - -- richard

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-25 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/25/25 4:00 PM, Richard Clayton wrote: In message <78e99534-7b33-4e26-91c6-206035a91...@mtcc.com>, Michael Thomas writes > I'm sorry can you give some examples of the "exotic changes to existing > fields"? I'm drawing a blank on why you'd need to change existing fields > at all vs introd

[Ietf-dkim] Re: The "back scatter" problem

2025-01-25 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/25/25 4:01 PM, Richard Clayton wrote: In message , Michael Thomas writes > Can somebody explain to me why the "back scatter" problem is related to > DKIM of any version? because our DKIM2 proposal fixes it if only all your questions were so straightforward to answer I'm asking about t

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-25 Thread Dave Crocker
but I honestly think we’re working at the margins Since the IETF does not support the use of simple voting and since I'm sure that everyone making this latest round of statements supporting the latest draft is sufficiently aware of mailing list postings -- that is, their statements are based

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-25 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message <09ee9385-c706-42b8-945f-360148d3b...@dcrocker.net>, Dave Crocker writes >A basic problem, throughout this entire discussion, has been the effort to >treat >simple relaying through MTAs, and a multiple-posting/delivering forwarding >seq

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-25 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 7:38 AM Dave Crocker wrote: > but I honestly think we’re working at the margins > > > Since the IETF does not support the use of simple voting and since I'm > sure that everyone making this latest round of statements supporting the > latest draft is sufficiently aware

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-25 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/25/25 10:10 AM, Richard Clayton wrote: > There are additional needs.  They are new.  Or, at least, they were not > previously a priority.  Since they were not needs when DKIM was developed, they > are not 'shortcomings'. they may not have been perceived to be shortcomings then -- they ar

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-25 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/25/25 10:10 AM, Richard Clayton wrote: >   The working group will pursue incremental enhancements to DKIM >   and/or DKIM use, where possible.  It will pursue parallel or >   replacement mechanisms only where incremental change is not feasible. this is recipe for spending a considerable am

[Ietf-dkim] The "back scatter" problem

2025-01-25 Thread Michael Thomas
Can somebody explain to me why the "back scatter" problem is related to DKIM of any version? Mike ___ Ietf-dkim mailing list -- ietf-dkim@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to ietf-dkim-le...@ietf.org